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  • behemoth
    SVSTC?
    • Nov 2002
    • 7750

    #16
    Originally posted by Zygote
    An SS-25 is no different than a well setup sniper. Some of the parts are incompatible but there's no reason you can't get a sniper working just as well for half the price if you know what you're doing. I don't and I still managed to pull it off.

    Another gun to look out for if it ever becomes widely available is the re-released sterling.
    a VERY well setup sniper

    (also, you cant beat the 86* slider )

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    • PumpPlayer
      TrojanMan on other boards
      • Feb 2005
      • 333

      #17
      Before you go deciding what gun you want, figure out what kind of gun you want.

      If someone were to say, "Hey guys, what's the best semi- I can get under $500?" you'd laugh. Mech or electro? HPA/CO2 preference? Feed system? Trigger system? Do barrel threads matter to you? How reliable do you need it to be? How much paint do you want to shoot? What's your normal playing environment? And so on... It's not hard to imagine that similar questions can be posed to a pump purchase.


      The SS-25 is a constant-air gun. 12-grams work, but relatively poorly. Personally, I think the SS-25 is best set up with a hopper. I think the stock feed on it is a poor compromise and sacrifices too much. With a 12-ounce tank and a revvy, the SS-25 is a semi-shooter's pump. It's easy to pick up and play with, has a similar feel to a semi and is easy to shoot quickly, especially with the AT (though I'm not personally a fan of autotriggers). If you want a pump to use in pump games or occasionally for fun and don't want to adapt your game too significantly from semi- play, the SS-25 is your choice.

      Phantoms excell as stock guns. While they perform well as direct-feed and/or CA guns that's not where they shine, IMO. The Phantom is lighter, smaller, more efficient on 12 grams and more reliable with a better warranty. That's not to say it's the better gun though. If you want to be a stock player, the Phantom should be your first pump.




      Oh, and a sniper can be just as smooth and just as fast as any SS-25 if you know what you're doing. Arguably, they can be better since the SS-25s non-standard construction eliminates the use of certain aftermarket parts like valves. Snipers need to be tuned and you need to adjust the springs accordingly. If you take a 'cocker that's properly set up as a semi- and the only thing you do to it is slap on a pump kit, it's going to be a poor performer.
      Before: "You're playing with WHAT?"
      After: "Crap! It's that guy with the pump!"

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      • behemoth
        SVSTC?
        • Nov 2002
        • 7750

        #18
        Well said.

        (i love the spaceman valve in my SS )

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        • SR_matt
          Santa Sucks
          • Jun 2006
          • 1072

          #19
          i can only give an oppinion on the pump kit, which is that they are awesome. for a return spring just use a cocker sear return spring that you streach out a lot, very soft and smooth. over all CCM is an awesome company (i had a lot of issues when i ordered my pump kit due to a lot of confusion at the shop, they were switching systems over or something and were behind becasue the demand was up a lot. this was about a year or so ago and they have fixed all teh problems a long time ago) but they fixed every issue i had and i feel did an awesome job of making me happy and making up for the problems.

          very good company
          -matt

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          • Spaceman613
            Guinness taste tester
            • Jan 2002
            • 550

            #20
            Behemoth, If you do have one of my valves in your gun, then you do NOT have a "from the factory" SS25. I set those guns up to be more like the snipers I build.
            http://www.spaceman613.net

            http://www.bunkerboyz.com for CCM and your pump paintball needs.

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            • behemoth
              SVSTC?
              • Nov 2002
              • 7750

              #21
              Originally posted by Spaceman613
              Behemoth, If you do have one of my valves in your gun, then you do NOT have a "from the factory" SS25. I set those guns up to be more like the snipers I build.
              Oh, Hi there.

              I bought the gun from Fred, used.

              I love the thing. Also, pardon my ignorance but, what snipers do you build?

              Well kids, maybe i am biased, my SS25 is better than yours, neener neener!

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              • Spaceman613
                Guinness taste tester
                • Jan 2002
                • 550

                #22
                I build snipers for me and a couple close personal friends. none for selling.

                Ah, freds gun, wondered if he did sel it since he never plays with it

                And your may be better than theirs, but mines better than yours
                http://www.spaceman613.net

                http://www.bunkerboyz.com for CCM and your pump paintball needs.

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                • behemoth
                  SVSTC?
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7750

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Spaceman613
                  I build snipers for me and a couple close personal friends. none for selling.

                  Ah, freds gun, wondered if he did sel it since he never plays with it

                  And your may be better than theirs, but mines better than yours
                  atleast we can agree on our beer.

                  Pints of Guinness make you strong!

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                  • going_home
                    Hebrews 13:8

                    • Dec 2004
                    • 8343

                    #24
                    Spaceman valve

                    Originally posted by behemoth
                    Well said.

                    (i love the spaceman valve in my SS )
                    I bought a CCM SS25 and havent had a chance to use it yet.
                    Been trying to make it to a pump day.
                    Dont want to face the kiddies with the Ions with a pump seeing how I've never
                    played pump before.

                    Where do you get a spaceman valve for the SS25 and why is it better than the stock valve ?
                    Thanks

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                    • Spaceman613
                      Guinness taste tester
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 550

                      #25
                      You probably wont get one. I dont make them anymore. But the drawing is on my website so K&P or Punishers could do the work (amung others).

                      "better" is subjective.

                      the newer stock ccm valves dont have as many issues as the original ones. I like my guns set up a certain way and my valve allows this. I only did a handful, and they were for special people.
                      http://www.spaceman613.net

                      http://www.bunkerboyz.com for CCM and your pump paintball needs.

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                      • going_home
                        Hebrews 13:8

                        • Dec 2004
                        • 8343

                        #26
                        Ss25

                        Originally posted by Spaceman613
                        You probably wont get one. I dont make them anymore. But the drawing is on my website so K&P or Punishers could do the work (amung others).

                        "better" is subjective.

                        the newer stock ccm valves dont have as many issues as the original ones. I like my guns set up a certain way and my valve allows this. I only did a handful, and they were for special people.
                        Ok thanks. I have had my SS25 (bought new) for about 6 or 8 months now.
                        I saw on threads something about the valve burping but after dry firing and firing with
                        paint, I havent had mine do that. Hopefully mine has a newer one like you said.
                        And whats the url to your website ?
                        Thanks

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                        • RRfireblade

                          • Jun 2002
                          • 5103

                          #27
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