also a not eon the flatline, while it is inaccurate, eventually you can get rwl accurate with it, my teamate's a-5 is tuned to perfection and he only shoots ALl-star otr marbs, and it is very accurate, it's not dead on but it's enough that he has a small range increase and can pcik people off a lil farther away
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Nope. The ball will still travel the same distance. For instance, if you can shoot and hit a target at 50 yds with a PM5, but you have to arc the ball to get there, you are slightly pointing the barrel up to acheive the 50 range. Now, with a flatline type barrel, you dont have to point the barrel up, you just point at. But, it is still a 50 yd shot. And, the accuracy is much less because the ball is much smaller than the bore of the barrel, so it exits the barrel differently every time. Greater range in the woods, where arcing the ball is not wanted. It does not make the ball go farther, but flatter. Hope that helps.Originally posted by don miguelif the ball is reduceing arc isn't it going farther?
WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.Comment
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Im not saying that the flatline is in-acurate, I am saying that it is not as accurate as a normal barrel. I play with guys that can afford to buy any marker that they want. ANd they play with the A5's and 98's with flatlines. They are good with them and they will eat you up in the woods. As with anything, if you practice and get to know what your marker can and cant do, then you can be accurate with it, no matter what you shoot.WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.Comment
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The Flatline and Apex barrels both aren't worth the time unless you live in the back.
Get a decent 12" or 14" barrel/barrel kit and match the paint to the bore. It's the only way to get decent accuracy.
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Hasn't the military proven this with that "Simotaneous Impact" thing, where they fire like 5 lobs at 5 different angles that all hit the same spot at the same time?
A lob is an artilary shell
but they might use sabots now adays
a lob is like a paintball shell right?Comment
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The difference is that artillery can be shot with different powder charges, for different ranges. Paintball markers are limited to 300fpsWOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.Comment
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Originally posted by Hop Hop
If your looking to play "sniper" then rather than go for range...go for stealth.
If you can sneak up and take a single shot from 30ft away and then silently move...you will be much more effective and much better at demoralizing the other team.
Trust me...there have been times i've stepped over snipers and not seen em because they used the natural cover and there own skills to very good effect, and shooting the same markers everyone else was.
Get a good barrel kit, either inserts like a freak has, or different backs like a evil pipe. then every game...take five random paintballs out of a few bags...see which insert/back fits them the best and go with it.
((on a side note i own an Evil pipe with a 12 inch front...and i love it, accurate everytime and pretty decent at shooting through a break))Comment
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Just read that, nothing else is needed. I took the time to be concise and all inclusive, please don't reiterate the same things in a sloppy manner afterwards. Unless you have something to ADD, don't destroy my pretty and organized response. K THNX?Originally posted by warbeak2099No barrel will shoot any farther than any other barrel when the gun is set at the same velocity for both barrels. The only exceptions are the Flatline and Apex barrels. The Flatline will not fit on any kind of Automag and the Apex bears the same weaknesses of innacuracy and inconsistancy as the Flatline.
A barrel past 16" will actually begin to decrease performance. The ball will begin to slow down thus requiring you to turn up the velocity. Long barrels are inefficient, will not increase your range, and they are unwieldy, decreasing your ability to move.
A good barrel is one that has a mirror finish inside and is made of quality materials. Poor grade aluminum will bend and warp over time, impacting the tolerances and quality of the barrel. Find something that has a good, consistant interior bore. Give us a price range and we can give you some suggestions for barrels that you might want to look at. However, there are so many good choices out there, that we really can't make any suggestions until you zero it down for us with a price range and maybe some other options such as noise reduction or weight.
Cheers
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Originally posted by MANNRead what Tom had to say about barrels
Things to do to get your paint to shoot straight:
1. Buy a barrel kit (one with inserts or different size backs) or many different bores of the same barrel. I am not a big fan of smartparts, but the one thing that they do produce that is good is their freak kit. You can usually pick one up for @ 100 bucks, and will always have the right sizes.
2. Buy decent to good quality paint. If you are using cheap paint it is not round, and will never go straight
3. Match the paint to the barrel
As far as length I like the 12"-14" range.
If you are only wanting one barrel than get one that is machined well, and buy several different types of paint.
As far as 1 piece barrels. I know that sp progressive barrels work well with marbs. Im not sure what the bore is. (maybe .693)
Edit: a flatline or apex barrel may make your paint shoot farther, but the velocity drops durasticly so the paint will just bounce off your oppoent, and send up a big red flag that will give away your position.
The comment on the freak kits..is not true..they measure the diameter of the insert before they anno them..some guys over on the annodizing forum on pbnation were saying that have taken the tool you measer the internal diameter with (calometer or something?) and they said they are way off ..i might look and see if i can find the thread later because they supply numbers...screw a kit or flatline style barrel..just get a nice .689 or .688 barrel and use that...Comment
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Anno thickness would be a few microns (about 0.0001") so it should not affect the bore size that much. Unless SP is annoing them with a very thick layer, but i doubt that. The freak is ok tho, never used one but i hardly hear people complaining about them. As far as apex and flatlines go, if you want to be accurate at long range, practice longballing with a decent barrel. All the flatline does is flatten the trajectory of the ball, sacrificing accuracy. Accuracy with a flatline can be done tho, but from my expierience with them its accuracy by volume.Originally posted by CKY_Alliance
Get a good 12-14 inch barrel that matches your paint, or a barrelkit in that length and possibly a red dot sight if you are into that kind of thing. (and yes, red dot helps alot if you fail to constantly look over the barrel correcly... like i do..)Comment
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I'm probably going to burn from the flaming for saying this but....
Drags over fire exiguisher (sp)...
I recommend the HammerHead system if money isn't a major issue for a few reasons.
Pulls pin...
The hammer Head has the BEST quality for any paintball product that I've ever invested in. This includes, well everything markers, masks hell even pods, Hammer Heads processing is astonishing to me.
The weight of the barrel is rediculuos (sp), I got the whole kit and they sent me a free case (gotta love it when you promo for them) and I thought they just sent me the case becuase I picked it up and it felt empty. Low and behold there's a 14" tip with 5 backs 2 sizers and some thread protectant.
Everything about this barrel was clean, lightweight and top notch quality.
Aims nozzle...
This thing is the most accurate barrel I have ever shot, I've used Freaks, J&J, CP, and Pipes and this thing is a nail driver. Whatever the vodoo they do with the riffling works, flat out. The ball doesn't even grip the riffled edge, the poors just move the air around the ball. The thing is quet and sesky...
Squints and holds the handle waiting for the flame...
Yes its a riffled barrel that is balls on accurate.
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An 18 in barrel will shoot 6" farther than a 12" barrel. Other than that, don't buy equipment to make yourself better. Make yourself better, and then buy new equipment cause it's fun
you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
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If you want cheap, I recommend a j&j ceramic. From my experience they are nice barrels, pretty quiet and they're teflon coated to shoot through breaks easily.Comment
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Hahaha very funny. Come on though, don't make jokes, he obviously doesn't know too much about the topic.Originally posted by jenarelJAMAn 18 in barrel will shoot 6" farther than a 12" barrel. Other than that, don't buy equipment to make yourself better. Make yourself better, and then buy new equipment cause it's fun
Hop Hop, JAM was kidding. An 18in barrel will shoot no further than a 10", 12", 14", 16", etc. As long as the barrel is 8" or longer, and the gun is set at the same velocity, it will shoot just as far as a longer length. In fact, you need to turn up your velocity with barrels that are 16"+.Comment
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Now there is a man who knows his paintball!!!Originally posted by jenarelJAMAn 18 in barrel will shoot 6" farther than a 12" barrel. Other than that, don't buy equipment to make yourself better. Make yourself better, and then buy new equipment cause it's fun
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