07 Ego

[st6212]

[lather]

Got to hand it to PE, they have a great marketing department.

Nice gun though.

[BigEvil]

WOW, after reading that I MUST have a "more consistent solenoid pulse", or I just wont be able to compete

Without the page of text, it looks like just another new milling pattern and fancy anodising.

[WingMan13]

Wow, my head hurts after reading this. The Solenoid Valve sounds interesting. Nice to see there is still room left for some innovation.

[coreyander]

I love it. Esp since dye did jack squat w/ the DM7......this is going to be a GREAT year for PE and the ego. Im willing to bet a lot of the DM guys sell their DM6s to pay for a new ego.

This one really puts the pressure on dye to innovate yet again.

Im starting to like egos more and more.

[kruger]

Very nice, but personaly, I prefer the way that the 05 looked.

[Pneumagger]

You know guys.... the MAC solenoid valve from the 2002/2003 vikings were direct acting solenoid valves. That's nothing NEW or GROUNDBREAKING. So I guess I'm fine in that department.

But what am I going to do about my "inferior" rail and drop.... I just won't be able to complete

LOL. Great marketing, enough changes to merit an upgrade from 06 to 07, and a competitive price tag should bury the DM7/NXT/PM7 sales. However, planet eclipse is known for anything but their competitve pricing.

[Warwitch]

Very nice, but personaly, I prefer the way that the 05 looked.

Yeah, I have to admit, the "nothing but two stacked tubes" look dosent leave much to look at. I would rather my marker weigh 2 oz. more and look like something!

[coreyander]

I thought humphrey solenoids are like that as well. Mine has a spring returned spool.

[StygShore]

eh...again same sh..tuff different shell.....

huh? what's this?

Deftek Offset Feed Tube




Styg

[Pneumagger]

I thought humphrey solenoids are like that as well. Mine has a spring returned spool.

Humphreys are all the spool. The macs had a more powerful solenoid that punched a poppet (direct acting)

[coreyander]

have you ever taken a humphrey solenoid pneumagger? I have. It has a spring in it at one end of the spool. So that spring doesnt do anything is what youre telling me? I was under the impression that the spool cycled completely and the spring aided in return. Is that not what the spring is for?




heres is a picture of the current ego noid. Not the 07

[CoolHand]

Humphreys are all the spool. The macs had a more powerful solenoid that punched a poppet (direct acting)

They don't have a poppet, the big solenoid punches a large spool section.

Same basic way of switching the air flow, different way of powering said switch.

MAC uses a big noid to clobber the spool and shift it, Humphreys use air pressure on one end of the spool to shift it.

Now, mind you I am talking about tiny little parts inside the solenoid valves themselves, not marker parts.

I'd bet good money that they're using the same MAC 43 series that WAS claimed to have invented, however, my MAC dealer told me that MAC independantly developed the 43 series specifically to get back into paintball with WAS just happened to be the first to find them and stick a label on them.

[BigEvil]

They don't have a poppet, the big solenoid punches a large spool section.

Same basic way of switching the air flow, different way of powering said switch.

MAC uses a big noid to clobber the spool and shift it, Humphreys use air pressure on one end of the spool to shift it.

Does it make a difference, or is it 6-of-one, half-a-dozen-of-the-other?

[CoolHand]

Does it make a difference, or is it 6-of-one, half-a-dozen-of-the-other?

They are right, the MAC's will be faster, but were talking the difference between 32 cps and 45 cps.

It's all so overkill that it's nearly pointless to debate at this point.

The reason manufacturers are going to the MAC is that it is:

A) Smaller in nearly every dimension.
2) Much cheaper to buy (less than half of what a Humphrey costs wholesale).
G) Simpler design with fewer moving parts, basically none of which are user servicable (or ever accessable).
5) Higher flowing because of the bigger spool section. This means parts downstream start to move sooner after the shift.
?) Lower maintenance and they are tolerant of oiled air. Meaning no user service needed, and you can't bugger them up with synthetic air tool oil (though most, if not all of Humphreys valves tolerate oiled air as well).