nice wipe...nppl sd...kenny rosenburg

[coreyander]

uh...ban the player from the division they cheated in...if they want to cheat in the next division/league, than they can get banned in that one too. And most people carry a drivers liscense or some sort of ID. Maybe I'm naive to the registration/roster process. It shouldnt be that hard. Really.

if you ban ppl like this, then you are essentially going to completely end pro/tourney paintball on the national level forever. Then.......no more paintball leagues.

[geekwarrior]

if you ban ppl like this, then you are essentially going to completely end pro/tourney paintball on the national level forever. Then.......no more paintball leagues.

why? because there wont be any players left? i think after the first couple of people gone, players will stop. and maybe we need a 90% change in the players we have now anyway.

[Lohman446]

I agree. But I think thats largely because the NFL knows its rare that individually, football players have any effect on the overall outcome of the game. Its truly a collective endevor.

On the other hand, in paintball thats not entirely the case. Alone, eliminations are worth points, as are the loss of points from any eliminations that the cheater made. But more importantly, that player who cheated can by eliminations, or single handedly win the game. And the probability of either of these happening is very high.

Olympic event outcomes are altered if a participant is found to have used steroids. Whether its a team event(like relays in track and field) or an individual event(like gymnastics or sprinting).

There is some truth there. However, dealing with it at all after teh fact (bans, etc.) would be better than what we have now. I think one of the problems is we all try to come up wiht the great solution all at once. Sometimes its steps.

[A 10Bando]

No kidding what ever happened to the WPF refs? I was one back in the day. All we need is to have local and field refs become certified and issue fines. I think the fine should go to a charity or a scholarship fund.

[coreyander]

why? because there wont be any players left? i think after the first couple of people gone, players will stop. and maybe we need a 90% change in the players we have now anyway.

ya, because there wont be any players left......thats basically it.

Not that there wont be ANY, but events will be getting smaller and smaller, which will deteriorate them to no end. Prizes will shrink, teams will shrink, events will be smaller, then ppl will eventually figure.....why the hell do I even bother playing national events.

[geekwarrior]

ya, because there wont be any players left......thats basically it.

Not that there wont be ANY, but events will be getting smaller and smaller, which will deteriorate them to no end. Prizes will shrink, teams will shrink, events will be smaller, then ppl will eventually figure.....why the hell do I even bother playing national events.

you dont think people will stop cheating after a few players get suspended or banned? i think it would be the opposite. More people would play. Look at the amount of people who are sick of the tourney scene because of all the cheating.

and i thought events were getting smaller and smaller already...

[paintballfiend]

Ha, have you guys read the comments for the video? The future of paintball is in their hands so you better play as much as you can now.

[geekwarrior]

Ha, have you guys read the comments for the video? The future of paintball is in their hands so you better play as much as you can now.

:rofl: missed that part

[azzkikr]

DEFINATELY a nice wipe.

[don miguel]

i love polishing my headband to that perfect mirror reflection shine :-)

don't we all. :rofl: i like my checkered hk army headband, with "easy wipe" technology! //sarcasm// (i don't own a hk army headband).

[CrimsonGhost]

That was a slick move.


Now he needs to be throttled with with Rosie Odonnels underwear.

hehe...ok ..so what ones would we use...?

Quoteing DC.
"Rosie Odonnel wears underwear with $%>#holes"

[tbizzle0]

wow, he's got that down to a science. he didnt even hesitate

[FSU_Paintball]

They all have it down to a science, sadly.

A friend of mine once said that Russian Legion were real stand-up guys who never cheat. A bit skeptical, I mentioned that to a Pro team coach, who laughed at the statement and replied "they are just so good at it, like a magician, nobody sees it".

It took a camera to catch that wipe. Otherwise, nobody would have caught it.

Well, to his credit, they USED to never cheat. They were known for that.

They're not 100% honest any more but in the scheme of things they're still pretty clean.

And all this talk of suspending players for wipes... I've seen people get wrongly called for playing on/wiping as often as the good calls.

[FSU_Paintball]

If a football player is found to have failed a drug test after the fact the outcome of the games he played in are not alterered. However, they are dealt with.

Yes, but if after the game they find he should have been assessed an in-game penalty for a cheating infraction (holding, etc), nothing happens.

That would be a better analogy. We're not talking about paintballers using drugs; we're talking about them cheating.

[Aggravated Assault]

Yes, but if after the game they find he should have been assessed an in-game penalty for a cheating infraction (holding, etc), nothing happens. That would be a better analogy. We're not talking about paintballers using drugs; we're talking about them cheating.

In football there are numerous ways to brake many gameplay rules that in the grand scheme of things, generally dosen't affect the outcome. In paintball, argueably, the most important aspect of the game is the ability to shoot someone out. In the current formats that we use, it can affect the outcome of the matches a lot more directly.

It seems we have a game that the best "cheaters" can wipe their way around that important aspect and do it without being caught. So.....what we have is a game where you have to be the best cheater to have the best chance to win.

Huh???

If there's "no way" to catch and/or stop the cheaters, like many claim, there is no game. If one can excell by learning how to cheat well enough, is there a point to the game? Think about it...If you make games rules irrevelant, you have no game anymore.

Oh, and by the way, reading some of those comments under the video is no suprise.... What a joke these "players" are. Really, in most other sports people generally look down upon the ones who are the rule breakers and the thugs. Here in paintball, we have a new generation of players who idolize them and a legion of others apologizing for them. The sad part is they are learning by example.

This is what happens when the inmates run the asylum.