Am I the only person who has no problem with paintball today?

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  • Triangle

    #16
    Originally posted by shartley
    LOL This is true. But I will also add that on other forums I frequent the reverse is true. More threads are about how great things were and have side notes about any problems they may have had. It seems to be an AO thing.
    A good point on the note of AO users va. Other forum users.
    Why do you think AO users have this mentality that the rules, or the way people play needs to be changed?

    Alot of the topics here have turned into, ' Hey, the other gun sucks because of this and this', then soon turn into how mags are better, etc etc.

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    • FARMER00
      Registered User
      • Jan 2006
      • 533

      #17
      ive gotten away from all the hassel and bull**** of playing at fields with noobs and experienced players talking **** and all that stuff. I play recball with a scenario here or there or a big game like 300+ people and i like playing recball with my 15 buddies just fine

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      • Triangle

        #18
        Originally posted by FARMER00
        ive gotten away from all the hassel and bull**** of playing at fields with noobs and experienced players talking **** and all that stuff. I play recball with a scenario here or there or a big game like 300+ people and i like playing recball with my 15 buddies just fine

        That brings up a pretty interesting topic in my head.
        I think I'll go start another thread.

        IM A POET AND DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT.

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        • Raven001
          Registered User
          • Apr 2004
          • 314

          #19
          Originally posted by Triangle
          Alot of the topics here have turned into, ' Hey, the other gun sucks because of this and this', then soon turn into how mags are better, etc etc.
          I'm always surprised by the number of non-mag owners who come on AO and discover that Mag owners tend to like their markers better than any other marker. Who would have thunk it?

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          • shartley
            paintball player
            • Mar 2001
            • 9169

            #20
            Originally posted by Triangle
            A good point on the note of AO users va. Other forum users.
            Why do you think AO users have this mentality that the rules, or the way people play needs to be changed?

            Alot of the topics here have turned into, ' Hey, the other gun sucks because of this and this', then soon turn into how mags are better, etc etc.

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            • PanzerGen
              Registered User
              • Mar 2006
              • 144

              #21
              I think that many of the statements on this forum have become defensive. What I mean by that is simple; many people on this forum and others have bashed mags and "old school" styles so much that the natural reaction is to speak out in defense of the so called "old" parts of paintball. To me, paintball has become very polarized. A style of play or a piece of equipment is termed good or bad indiscriminately in all paintball forums. Users of this "bad, old, etc." gun then feel that they have to defend their purchase against these accusations. Every gun receives these attacks now (Ion, Shocker, Cocker, Mag, whatever,), but since mags are not on the top of the popularity scale anymore, they receive additional attacks from people who either deem them inferior or want them to be on top again. A similar problem occurs with styles of play. The old, "honor-based" system is dying out and many see that as a bad thing so they speak out. Those that like it (or don't care) do not. I do not feel that it is right to criticize others for speaking out. By remaining silent, they abandon all hope of changing the system, gun choice, etc. that is currently in place. This "feel good" attitude is kind of disturbing since many people seem to be happy all of the time and allow problems to continue unchecked for the sake of "happiness." Unfortunately, avoiding or ignoring problems is too common in modern societies on every level from average people to governments. Maybe the problems we see in paintball are not really unique to paintball :spit_take .

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              • Triangle

                #22
                Originally posted by Raven001
                I'm always surprised by the number of non-mag owners who come on AO and discover that Mag owners tend to like their markers better than any other marker. Who would have thunk it?
                Owning a mag is such a different source of pride.

                I've gone though dozens of markers, and I still love my mag. I'm also the biggest critic of said mag.

                Of course, when the work on it is completed, it will no longer be an automag, per se.

                The mag-ownership pride is a different type of pride all in it's own, and alot of time I think it turns into a snobby sort of pride.

                I also think that the same people who have that problem, are just as dangerous/bad as the 'agg kiddies' they so openly pick on.

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                • Triangle

                  #23

                  This is probably the third or fourth time I'll ever really agree with you, Sam.


                  On that note: What makes paintball....paintball?
                  I mean, it's always evolving. Some of the people who post here play hardcore tournement ball, they play for keeps. For money, pride. What does 'Paintball' mean to them?

                  I'm also willing to bet that there are a few people [on this board ] that have never set foot on an actual insured field and played with other people.

                  Or the weekened warrior who just shows up to play in the spool fields with a bunch of other random people.

                  I think people play it all so differently now, it's turning into something else-comepletely different.

                  How about you Sam, what does paintball mean to you?

                  I know that to me, it means waking up extra early and running to the grocery store down the street to buy more gatorade than we'll drink all day. Calling every single person I know to invite them, and when they can't go, calling them a second time the day after to invite them again. It means never throwing away anything I have that is paintball related--someone else I meet on the field may need it.
                  It means looking forward to a day of nothing but fun and games after a week, or a month of BS at work.

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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #24

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                    • Triangle

                      #25
                      I beat my children Sam, so I'm really not seeing your example.






                      And I will divert you to please post in my other thread on the front page of PBtalk.

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                      • paintballfiend
                        I like pudding.
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 555

                        #26
                        I have to most fun when I play with walk-ons with rentals because they have not been contaminated by the bad side of paintball. Plus, they call me a sniper because I play with a Phantom.

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                        • neppo1345
                          I Will Eat Your Children..
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1913

                          #27
                          Yeah, we tend to simply belittle those idiots... At least thats what I noticed when AO-OH got together. It made for a good time sitting and making fun of the AGG kids that were trying to play with us.

                          When I'm on the field any given weekend, I don't give a damn.

                          But when you put stakes on the line, I tend to get serious.

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                          • CKY_Alliance
                            Team Deranged
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1695

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Triangle
                            I'm glad.

                            It just looks and seems like the majority of the people on AO would rather complain about what other people do, instead of actually going out and trying to have a good time while playing.

                            It's so much easier teo tell myself, 'The guy's an idiot', than it is to get worked up over the fact that he didn't leave when I shot him. So I shoot him again, and get on with the game.

                            Pretty much the same way i think, although i have had my times when i have flipped out on some people... but it takes a lot.

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                            • 68magOwner
                              Registered User
                              • May 2003
                              • 3475

                              #29
                              i like paintball....

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                              • warbeak2099
                                That is my foot!
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 4447

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 68magOwner
                                i like paintball....
                                I like cheese. But then, who doesn't.


                                In all seriousness, I see the problems that everyone else sees in paintball. The difference is that i don't see them and then say they are going to cause the apocalypse of the sport. Different eras have different problems. Back in the early 90's everyone was worried about CA thinking it would ruin the sport. Yea that happened. Everyone was worried about Nitro thinking it was unsafe and would ruin the sport. Yea that's why more people have gotten injured through co2 tank related incidents.

                                The fact is, it's like any other type of history. You always have the older generation saying that the newer generation is causing the end of society. The flappers in the 20's, the street racing craze in the 40's and 50's, the hippies in the 60's and 70's, the Breakfast Club age of the 80's, etc. The point is that it never happens and it's all subjective. The sooner you realize this, the less Weltschmerz you will suffer from.
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