So what happened to propane?

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  • Doc Nickel
    Unrepentant Gadget freak

    • Jul 2001
    • 499

    #16
    Conceptually the gun was great. Even groundbreaking. A definite new and unique look at the idea of using pressurized gas to launch a paintball.

    However, in reality, it was a large, very bulky pump gun, with a fairly long and somewhat stiff pump stroke, didn't accept any existing aftermarket barrels, and most importanly, it didn't solve any real problems. Ten or fifteen years ago, there's have been a few places that the use of propane would have helped (when a place couldn't get HPA or CO2 easily) and the pump aspect wasn't such a limitation.

    But today, both CO2 and HP supplies are fairly plentiful, a good, fast semiauto can be had for less than the cost of the propane gun, and really, few people use pumps anymore, and most of those who DO, are looking for very small, lightweight and stock class legal guns.

    The two ways the propane technology can become successful: Either jam it into a Phantom sized pump (or at the largest, a Sterling or Sniper sized pump) or build it as a semiauto.

    And the problem with the latter is the inherent heat and condensation issues.

    It'll be interesting to see if the technology goes anywhere, but I suspect it'll wind up a trinket, like the Epic's sliding door bolt or the Alien's flapper- interesting, but not particularly useful.

    Doc.

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    • Swampy
      Shrub Hunter
      • Oct 2006
      • 884

      #17
      Is Propane effected at all like CO2 from cold weather? What about Propane vs. HPA in the cold?
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      • Raven001
        Registered User
        • Apr 2004
        • 314

        #18
        Originally posted by Swampy
        Is Propane effected at all like CO2 from cold weather? What about Propane vs. HPA in the cold?
        About fifteen years ago, the company I work for switched its service fleet over to propane. In the winter, when it was really cold outside, we had to tow the vehicles indoors as they would not start. Apparently, not enough of the liquid propane was converting to gas to start up.

        I think though that if it were that cold, you wouldn't be playing paintball anyways. Crazy canuck or not

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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #19

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          • Pneumagger
            I like 'Mags.

            • Jun 2006
            • 3556

            #20
            Doc... build me a propane phantom... now. I have teh moneyz.

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            • FSU_Paintball
              (well, not any longer)
              • Aug 2002
              • 618

              #21
              I agree with Doc. A few years ago it could have carved itself a place in the market, but now it's just a solution looking for a problem. CO2 is too widely available, and guns are too cheap for this to take off now. Not to mention the general perception of propane being more dangerous than CO2/HPA.
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              • electriceel125
                Golden Gun 009
                • Nov 2003
                • 875

                #22
                This just makes me think of hank hill.

                I sell propane and propane accessories.

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                • jenarelJAM
                  Club Coordinator
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1611

                  #23
                  What I want to see next is an on-gun air compressor weighing less than 1lb, runs off a 9v, and compresses to 200-400 psi.

                  Well, I think the 9v part might be a little farfetched, but I could see something like this being the next "power" source.

                  Or actually, make it run off propane :P

                  /Is this how the tippy gun worked?
                  you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
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                  • hs2000

                    #24
                    I've heard that Tippmann makes the C3 more for the international market then the for the U.S. In smaller, less developed nations clean Co2 can be hard to come by, as well as paint. A propane powered pump is the perfect solution.

                    On a side note, if you had of pod a reballs, a C3, and a propane canister, you could play for years for free.

                    And on another, more on topic note, I am a dedicated pump player. I play nothing but pump. I bought a C3, but the pump strokes just to long and heavy, especially when your use to an SS-25.

                    Edit; I can't spell

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                    • LegumeOfTerror
                      Chris The Almighty
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 379

                      #25
                      i would think the swap in your empty tank programs blue rhino has also had a hand in killing this. if you get paintballs somewhere, theres a walmart nearby to get a new tank from.
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                      • paint magnet
                        Member # 10,261
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 2488

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hs2000
                        I've heard that Tippmann makes the C3 more for the international market then the for the U.S. In smaller, less developed nations clean Co2 can be hard to come by, as well as paint. A propane powered pump is the perfect solution.

                        On a side note, if you had of pod a reballs, a C3, and a propane canister, you could play for years for free.

                        And on another, more on topic note, I am a dedicated pump player. I play nothing but pump. I bought a C3, but the pump strokes just to long and heavy, especially when your use to an SS-25.

                        Edit; I can't spell
                        If you plan on shooting reballs at each other, you might as well use Red Ryder BB guns.
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                        • electriceel125
                          Golden Gun 009
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 875

                          #27
                          Originally posted by paint magnet
                          If you plan on shooting reballs at each other, you might as well use Red Ryder BB guns.


                          They have soft reballs made to shoot at each other. You just shoot around 230fps (somewhere around there).

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