Can we try the discussion about the self-adjusting barrel again?

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  • meanelvis
    Not mean, not Elvis
    • Feb 2002
    • 135

    #16
    a little off topic, but the reason we no longer use muskets is that you cant anodize them worth a crap and the drop forwards available at the time just sucked.


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    • hitech
      Not a shedder of vortices
      • Nov 2001
      • 4775

      #17
      Originally posted by Webmaster
      I havent seen any "perfect matching" of bores with any kit to really improve accuracy. There for - what advantage is there to having something that fine tunes the bore size?
      Good point. I've been trying to understand WHY good paint to barrel match improves accuracy. However, many other people seem to believe it does. It seems to me as long as it is tight enough...

      The real reason I posted is just because it got me to thinking of how to improve on their idea. It's a dangerous thing, getting me thinking.


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      • hitech
        Not a shedder of vortices
        • Nov 2001
        • 4775

        #18
        Originally posted by Webmaster
        ONE other thought - you think its hard to clean out ported barrels with breaks... what about roller bearings, where only 1/4 of the surface area could be cleaned with each swab of the squegee... yuck
        A squegee with star shaped disk(s) that conformed to the barrel shape should fix that problem.
        Last edited by hitech; 02-05-2002, 03:23 PM.


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        • Shaft
          Big Mean Ugly Ogre
          • Sep 2001
          • 797

          #19
          Don't the bearings prevent 100% contact around the equator of the ball? Thus nullifying much of the bore match benefit?

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          • Dubstar112
            Dubstar111x
            • Feb 2001
            • 2321

            #20
            what if you had a large ball and everytime you fired the bearings just released pressure around it...
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            Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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            • thei3ug
              Canicus
              • Oct 2000
              • 846

              #21
              Bore matching is really just to keep the ball PUT in the barrel prior to launching, so if the bearings did that, then they would be keeping true to the whole idea.

              But Doc nickel pointed out its most fatal flaw... it's not holding the ball. It's acting if anything like a speed bump to keep the ball in place. It probably only holds to .689 so that it doesn't bust everything in sight... and so what if it's someone trying something new? Ramrod was something new.

              Great idea, nice try, poor implimentation. Better buy one up before they all disappear.
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              • ShinyGuy
                Elves like shiny
                • May 2001
                • 226

                #22
                I think Shaft has a good point. As I understand it there are too things barrel paint match does. The first thing is increase efficiency due to less air leaking around the ball. Since air would escape past the rollers I can't see this design doing that. The other thing is does is ensure that the ball is traveling in a strait line and not spinning (due to equal friction around the ball). This design should do that, but as we know from car suspension it isn't easy to suspend something from springs and keep it perfectly even when sideways forces are applied.

                As for standard threads, I'd love to see someone (Tom, hint, hint) get the major marker manufacturers and the insurence people together and write up a whole bunch of standards for paintball. (ASA threads, barrel threads, field netting, barrel plug standards, etc, etc.) Sort of like our own version of ANSI. Most of these standard already exist, but it would be good to have them all in one place with someone responceble for maintaining them.

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