Have to sell the E-mag, what gun to get next......

[cyrus-the-virus]

What parts do you feel must be replaced on the Ion? I've got a pair of them running with all stock internals for almost two years now.

Well actually mainly just the uppers. the firing can, bolt and whatnot for better effeciency.

[rkjunior303]

if you were to part your e-mag, you could get enough to buy a used DC Vike.

[glickstue]

I'm not so keen on sacrificing reliability for marginally better efficiency. It's not like an emag is a efficiency king, I doubt you would see any appreciable difference in efficiency between an emag and an Ion. If you want the best efficiency with co2 then you should get a spyder or a spyder clone but making the switch from and emag to a spyder would be quite a step.

[CoolHand]

I'm not so keen on sacrificing reliability for marginally better efficiency. It's not like an emag is a efficiency king, I doubt you would see any appreciable difference in efficiency between an emag and an Ion. If you want the best efficiency with co2 then you should get a spyder or a spyder clone but making the switch from and emag to a spyder would be quite a step.

What are you talking about?

If anything, a Viking is MORE reliable than a Mag, E or otherwise.

Also, I dunno where you got the idea that a Spyder will be more efficient than a Viking or a properly tuned 'cocker. I've got a FreeFlow here that runs on CO2 exclusively, and it gets well over a case off a 20 oz tank. I run it off a 68 Cu tank, and that will shoot a case and a half easily if you get a full fill on it. I've never seen a Spyder get close to that.

If you sell your Emag just to buy a Spyder (or any STBB) you'll kick yourself for as long as you own the marker. That's like running out of Coke deciding to get a sex change operation. There is no reason to go ape **** here, it's just a matter of finding a marker you like that operates correctly with an input pressure under 450 psi.

A classic valved EMag is marginal at best on CO2, I know, I built one. I was less than impressed.

CO2 is fine in a mech classic, but the EClassic just shoots too damned fast too keep the liquid out.

[Triangle]

What are you talking about?

If anything, a Viking is MORE reliable than a Mag, E or otherwise.

Also, I dunno where you got the idea that a Spyder will be more efficient than a Viking or a properly tuned 'cocker. I've got a FreeFlow here that runs on CO2 exclusively, and it gets well over a case off a 20 oz tank. I run it off a 68 Cu tank, and that will shoot a case and a half easily if you get a full fill on it. I've never seen a Spyder get close to that.

Inernerts rule 47. Dont argue with the idiots. It means they win.

[cyrus-the-virus]

Inernerts rule 47. Dont argue with the idiots. It means they win.

Ain't that the truth. I'm glad don hasen't been in here.....

[scion]

What are you talking about?

If anything, a Viking is MORE reliable than a Mag, E or otherwise.
I think he was talking about the Ion's reliability and efficiency.
Also, I dunno where you got the idea that a Spyder will be more efficient than a Viking or a properly tuned 'cocker. I've got a FreeFlow here that runs on CO2 exclusively, and it gets well over a case off a 20 oz tank. I run it off a 68 Cu tank, and that will shoot a case and a half easily if you get a full fill on it. I've never seen a Spyder get close to that.

If you sell your Emag just to buy a Spyder (or any STBB) you'll kick yourself for as long as you own the marker. That's like running out of Coke deciding to get a sex change operation. lololol There is no reason to go ape **** here, it's just a matter of finding a marker you like that operates correctly with an input pressure under 450 psi.

A classic valved EMag is marginal at best on CO2, I know, I built one. I was less than impressed.

CO2 is fine in a mech classic, but the EClassic just shoots too damned fast too keep the liquid out.

[Triangle]

Um. Yeah. Sure he is.
Quit stirring the pot. Don hasn't even posted in this thread yet.

Good job catching the sarcasm, Smart guy.
We need more pople like you on AO.

[craltal]

Good job catching the sarcasm, Smart guy.
We need more pople like you on AO.

Somebody that posts useful information rather than needles scathing posts making fun of people? Yes, this forum needs more people like me.

Given your post history I was unsure of your intentions. At least my sarcastic comment was followed by the

I'm not don, quit taking things so personally.

/end

[FA22RaptorF22]

Cyrus, why dont you just get a nice reg, like a stabilizer and run it through the classic valve? That would be economical and you could keep the mag.

[craltal]

Cyrus, why dont you just get a nice reg, like a stabilizer and run it through the classic valve? That would be economical and you could keep the mag.

he's still going to have issues with the CO2 and having enough pressure to run the gun at higher ROF off of CO2, which is why he's thinking about a gun that runs below 450psi instead of over 650.

[glickstue]

What are you talking about?

If anything, a Viking is MORE reliable than a Mag, E or otherwise.

Also, I dunno where you got the idea that a Spyder will be more efficient than a Viking or a properly tuned 'cocker. I've got a FreeFlow here that runs on CO2 exclusively, and it gets well over a case off a 20 oz tank. I run it off a 68 Cu tank, and that will shoot a case and a half easily if you get a full fill on it. I've never seen a Spyder get close to that.

If you sell your Emag just to buy a Spyder (or any STBB) you'll kick yourself for as long as you own the marker. That's like running out of Coke deciding to get a sex change operation. There is no reason to go ape **** here, it's just a matter of finding a marker you like that operates correctly with an input pressure under 450 psi.

A classic valved EMag is marginal at best on CO2, I know, I built one. I was less than impressed.

CO2 is fine in a mech classic, but the EClassic just shoots too damned fast too keep the liquid out.

I never said anything about vikings, I have no experience with them. I also implied that it wouldn't be a good idea to switch from the emag to a spyder. I would never expect in a million years that somone would be happy with that trade.

[FA22RaptorF22]

he's still going to have issues with the CO2 and having enough pressure to run the gun at higher ROF off of CO2, which is why he's thinking about a gun that runs below 450psi instead of over 650.

Ah, good point.

Get a tippy lol, they run off liquid

[cyrus-the-virus]

Ah, good point.

Get a tippy lol, they run off liquid

So far this thread has had about 7 usefull post's in it.

I've already said I hate tippmann's so... yeah

[etjoyride]

I know you said you don't like tippys, but i have seen some tippys with Ego frames (boards and internals), that were LP and were amazing. If you don't like that then go with a viking i say.