Alternative tank/air setup....(UDM 2.0)

[Chronobreak]

Well for anyone thats been around for a while has seen their fair share of air setups. This one i have seen probly 7-8 years or more ago on a cocker with a 15*(?) foregrip.

and most recently a guy came out to OP with a nice ule x-valved mag that had a nice sweetspot, later in the day he whipped out a classic mag that had the foregrip direct air setup as well.

i did a quick setup of what im attempting for pics so people that dont understand can see what i mean.





few problems or things im wondering about

first as for the tank, can i switch the placement of the fill nipple with the burst disk?

How do people without slidechecks release the pressureized air from their gun?

and how do i or who wants to help make a mount for my frame so all the weight isnt on the foregrip/rail.

also i plan on using a warp still....

any suggestions/comments are welcome

[PumpMag]

very unique tank mount

Very original modification. That's why I like Automags.Org. All the innovation that come from its members.

I was wondering how it's mounted.

It looks like it would tend to create a pivot point? Is it secure?

Will a slight amount of torque applied to the back of the bottle accidently start to loosen the assembly?

Cool setup just wondering if it feels awkward and if its safe?

[MANN]

try a pro connect instead of a slide check.

[Chronobreak]

Very original modification. That's why I like Automags.Org. All the innovation that come from its members.

I was wondering how it's mounted.

It looks like it would tend to create a pivot point? Is it secure?

Will a slight amount of torque applied to the back of the bottle accidently start to loosen the assembly?

Cool setup just wondering if it feels awkward and if its safe?

its mounted by and ONLY by at this point by the male to male 1/8th connection

well i intend on loc titing it once i have a permanent setup i think il be happy with but as it is now it can slide smewhat easily side to side.

i also intend on making a mount under the triggerframe yo hold the tank securely and keep the weight down(im afraid if i dont that parts will start to warp under pressure)

it feels great, looks awkward (like most of my setups), im guesssing its as safe ifnot safer than most setups( since the brass fittings are actualy rated for psi)

try a pro connect instead of a slide check.

yeah i was looking into thos as well. i had another idea of somehow fashinong a on/off device to go thro the top of the dual ported foregrip so it wouldnt take up more room(pro connects are kinda big arent they?)

[going_home]

Not with a Flatline

The Flatline doesnt have the air bleed feature, and thats the main reason I dont have one.
Most of the newer Centerflag regulators have that feature. They are the best in my humble opinion.
Air America Armageddon, you can unscrew the tank a bit from the reg and bleed it.
Evil Scion has a bleed button but it doesnt bleed it down all the way and with a mag,
the valve wont fire when it gets down to 300 or 400.
I think some of the new Max Flo's have the bleed feature also.
But you're pretty much stuck fighting with the macroline fitting trying to bleed it with a Flatline.
And if you are still using steel braided you will need a wrench.
Looks like AGD is riding what they have and arent doing any innovations to keep their
product cutting edge so the Flatline is the way it is, no air bleed without a wrench.

[MANN]

yeah i was looking into thos as well. i had another idea of somehow fashinong a on/off device to go thro the top of the dual ported foregrip so it wouldnt take up more room(pro connects are kinda big arent they?)

the diameter is smaller than the slide checks. That is why I liked them. They wont scratch your body.

There is one in the top row. Second to the left.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/mannsports/IMG_1445.jpg

[CoolHand]

Unless you fab up a ring mount to go around the girth of the tank and attach it to the frame, I would not play with it that way under any circumstance.

That's a red brass pipe nipple, it's not meant to be used as a structural member any more than the port in the tank is meant to bear the entire weight of the tank and any torques that may be applied to it.

If you break that nipple while it's under pressure, it won't be very pleasant. I doubt you'd be killed but it would likely lead to some damage on your part from shrapnel. The tank will also be loose and under it's own power.

It's a unique set-up, that's for sure, but I'd be very careful that you don't end up damaging yourself or someone else with it's "uniqueness".

From the look of it, a tank ring made of steel strapping with an angled mounting block for the underside of the frame would not be very hard to execute at all, and it would remove basically all of the danger from the set-up.

[Chronobreak]

Unless you fab up a ring mount to go around the girth of the tank and attach it to the frame, I would not play with it that way under any circumstance.

That's a red brass pipe nipple, it's not meant to be used as a structural member any more than the port in the tank is meant to bear the entire weight of the tank and any torques that may be applied to it.

If you break that nipple while it's under pressure, it won't be very pleasant. I doubt you'd be killed but it would likely lead to some damage on your part from shrapnel. The tank will also be loose and under it's own power.

It's a unique set-up, that's for sure, but I'd be very careful that you don't end up damaging yourself or someone else with it's "uniqueness".

From the look of it, a tank ring made of steel strapping with an angled mounting block for the underside of the frame would not be very hard to execute at all, and it would remove basically all of the danger from the set-up.

Ryan,

im very aware of the possible dangers to myself, others and equipment. i do not plan on using this setup intil i have a mount as i have said 3 times now.

i simply set it up for pics so people would understand what i meant easily.

do you want to help with a mount?( i figured you were busy so i was gonna talk to luke or jay maybe)

i was thinking one of the odler ring tank mounts and a wedge shaped mount would be perfect for holding it steady and safely.

your welcome to play with my gun anytime(you just gotta actualy show up to an AO day )

going home,

yeah it is probly the only downside to the flatline, and i would hate to sell it for soemthing so small, but a lighter preset screw in is looking really tempting right about know.

mann,
thanks for the suggestions, and looks like il be buying one of those.
--and my toolbox looks like that too

[MANN]

lmk if you want that one. I dont use it anymore.

[CoolHand]

Ryan,

im very aware of the possible dangers to myself, others and equipment. i do not plan on using this setup intil i have a mount as i have said 3 times now.

i simply set it up for pics so people would understand what i meant easily.

do you want to help with a mount?( i figured you were busy so i was gonna talk to luke or jay maybe)

i was thinking one of the odler ring tank mounts and a wedge shaped mount would be perfect for holding it steady and safely.

your welcome to play with my gun anytime(you just gotta actualy show up to an AO day )

going home,

yeah it is probly the only downside to the flatline, and i would hate to sell it for soemthing so small, but a lighter preset screw in is looking really tempting right about know.

mann,
thanks for the suggestions, and looks like il be buying one of those.
--and my toolbox looks like that too

I think it shouldn't be too big of a project really. I'm sure Luke can make it given the dia of your tank and the amount of foam you want to pad the tank with.

If Luke can't do it, shoot me over an email and I'll roll you up a ring for it (assuming steel is OK with you, I can weld the whole deal up and that'll be that). If you you'd rather have aluminum, I can still fab it, but I'll have to take it elsewhere to have it TIG'ed together (my aluminum welding is not up to snuff yet IMO).

If you guys have an AO day where it doesn't rain, and I don't have to work, I'll make it up there. Those two conditions seem to be nearly impossible to meet at the same time.

[Flow_Tech]

dammmmmn.
i havent posted here in like,2 years.
scott still has UDM.
good to see coolhand still around.
i like the mag scott,looks good.


does everyone still remember me as the guy who got signatures taken away?
lol.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Make sure you find a SS pipe to connect it, even with a tank mount. Look around for some of the older Nitro duck tank rings, they used to make a bunch of them. Interresting setup.....


Shane-O

[SR_matt]

fire ball mountain makes a tank wedge to put your tank at a weird angel you might eb able to flip it around and use it to mount your, currently imaginary, tank rings to.

-matt

[3DSteve]

you could use this instead of a slide check

http://www.doropaintball.com/AB1038101Equick/shopexd.asp?id=8844

but you'd still need a QD

[Chronobreak]

shane,
an SS 1/8 to 1/8 ?

yeah i know what im looking for but theyr kinda hard to find these days

steve,

but will that bleed the line? even if there is only a little air its still kinda iffy taking a qd off at 600~ psi