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  • Triangle

    #16
    Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
    Haha yes! The Aedes! Mq blowforward ftw!

    And nothing could beat a qloader, as the q is a torsion spring...meaning that it is constant feed. It will feed as fast as you can shoot.

    But fast hopper nonetheless
    A halo will feed as fast you will shoot.
    An Empire reloader will feed as fast as you can shoot.
    A Q loader is overkill, and isn't conventional enough to warrant serious use on the tourney scene.

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    • FA22RaptorF22
      AO-CT
      • Nov 2006
      • 593

      #17
      Tourney = semi...therefore you are not really going to outshoot most any hopper.

      But a qloader IS the fastest...wether conventional or not. For me...its great for testing. Other than that....a pulse for me.

      The only gun that could probly outshoot the q is the Aedes....i want to see more vids of that gun.

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      • Desega
        Here's Johnny!
        • Sep 2004
        • 518

        #18
        The pulse and the Empire B are both halo knockoffs.
        I can't feel my toes . . .

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        • Ydna
          Paintball Manufacturer

          • Apr 2004
          • 264

          #19
          Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
          But a qloader IS the fastest...wether conventional or not.
          ahhh don't be so sure about that! The 25-bps (32-bps peak) shocker video that somebody linked above was one of my early tests on a homemade loader I'm making. More recently I got a consistent 28-bbs with multuple peaks above 30-bps (fastest was 34) using an Ion in this video.

          Without going into too much detail about how it works, I will say the loader is far from practical at the moment but in terms of feedrate, it simply can't be beat. I just have to do some tweaking to get things right.

          Anyways, the problem with using a 'mag is that it doesn't have eyes. I'd suggest using an electro pneumag or something, since it would correctly fire each time a ball is definitively loaded. I mean, you can tell the fun to fire fast without eyes but nothing beats the accuracy of using eyes (IMO).
          When I finish my pneumag I want to get some nice testing done with it...
          Andy "Ydna" DuBuc
          Nummech Products & ZDSPB

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          • Chronobreak
            Rec Poster
            • Mar 2003
            • 5055

            #20
            warp feed at 75 bps >

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            • nicad
              wannabe newbe
              • May 2002
              • 992

              #21
              As Pneumagger pointed out, bps drop tests and real BPS fired are two completely different numbers, sometimes not even related. Qloader, at 100 bps drop rate, I could never get much more above 35 real BPS. The stop-start rate in them are bad, since EVERY ball is moved with each shot.
              The best I could get was 42bps from a Halo ReloaderB.

              I need more!
              ..and more time in the day. :)
              ColinMoritz

              Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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              • neppo1345
                I Will Eat Your Children..
                • Oct 2005
                • 1913

                #22
                Originally posted by Ydna
                Without going into too much detail about how it works, I will say the loader is far from practical at the moment but in terms of feedrate, it simply can't be beat. I just have to do some tweaking to get things right.

                +


                ?

                /Hang on guys, gotta refill my fuel tank.
                //My loader stopped working, fouled glow plug.
                ///...yeah so thats how I lost those three fingers...

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                • jenarelJAM
                  Club Coordinator
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1611

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Desega
                  The pulse and the Empire B are both halo knockoffs.
                  Empire B, yes, but if you're not including the Vlocity as a halo knockoff, then you can't count the pulse either. They're all shaped roughly the same, the difference is in the way they function. The pulse has quite a few features over the halo as well.
                  you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
                  :shooting: :cuss:

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                  • Blazestorm
                    I win
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 3523

                    #24
                    We tried a few guns at the local field tonight with paint that you could drop from 3-4 ft up and it would break...

                    DC 04 Viking - (Guessing) roughly around 20... I don't know if he uncapped it though... Broke last ball
                    XSV 06 Ego - In semi but bouncing... faster than the DC with bursts in high 20's No breaks
                    Rediculous Ion - low-mid 20's with a lot of breaks...
                    Evil Minion w/ UL Frame - Spitfire Chip - mid-high 20's with breaks
                    05 Lasoya w/ M3 Tadao - In semi consistently 20-22

                    Intimidators cap out mechanically about that, and it was around that

                    All of these are rough estimates, but I've been playing for 5 years, I know what certain ROF's sound like...

                    None of them were close to 30, the only one that might have been was the XSV when it was bouncing... we didn't know how to change it into ramping... haha...

                    No "actual" tests... but whatever...

                    Now I just gotta get this damn thing back to mode 1 ... haha... I want it to be gentle on my paintballs...
                    My Feedback
                    UBLPB. UBLPB. UBLPB.

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                    • mobsterboy
                      Mr.StealYoDallara

                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2371

                      #25
                      fill your hopper all the way next time you do a vid. Paint count? and there was still one being pushed through right as you cut it off.

                      Impressive overkill though
                      RAWR
                      Dallara Den

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                      • Blazestorm
                        I win
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 3523

                        #26
                        I figured it as 3.76 seconds for 139 balls

                        Roughly 37bps...

                        I haven't found a gun that is "outshooting" this persay...

                        I found a Marq6 and Marq7 owner (Bob Long has gotten 32 w/ a Pulse) but they wouldn't let me use their guns... both my friends but they don't wanna mess with their guns (actually they don't know how to adjust the board... haha)
                        My Feedback
                        UBLPB. UBLPB. UBLPB.

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                        • indecisive
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 50

                          #27
                          Where do they sell those parts? I want to throw them into my vlocity.

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