... I will NEVER ship first again.

[neppo1345]

Wow, this is just a horror story.

So I made a deal with a kid on PbN to trade a cocker + cash for his Gen-E matrix. He insists I ship first and has decent feedback so I figure what the heck, why not.

I ship out a beautiful, flawlessly working pre-99 cocker last wendsday. I get a PM saying he recieved it and it looks great etc etc, and he'll ship out saturday or tuesday.

I recieve a package today, open it up, and sure enough. Theres my cocker.

I then get a PM from him saying:

"hey sry about the hold up i didnt get a chanc to tell u i shiped your gun back cuz there was a slight problem with it sry... i shiped it tuesday cuz i didnt get to the post office on saterday in time and monday was a holiday so they wernt open"

I look at the cocker only to realize that the RAM HOUSING is bent into the front block. The pump arm is bent, and it's missing it's hard to find shocktech trigger guard. It looks hile he used it as a hammer.

This gun is in such bad shape it won't even cycle. Keeping me from reselling it without dropping even more money into it.

Anyone ever have anything like this happen before?

[Pneumagger]

Damn man,

You have got to leave bad feedback and include before and after pics in the post. Or contact his parents. There's no reason this should be allowed to happen just because it's a kid your dealing with. Contact his parents, I fully condone a good arse whuppin preformed by parents.

EDIT: BTW, you wouldn't mind posting pics. And thank God it wasn't the EGO.

[AZ_09]

You could do 3rd parties, whenver someone says to ship first i always bring that up.
That really sucks. Id get really mad, but, you cant do much. Good luck, maybe you can get him to replace the stuff he messed up.

[wjr]

what an idiot kid...

try calling his perants maybe?

[where am i?]

whats his pbnation name? Look up his number and call.

[neppo1345]

Yeah, the worst part is according to PbNation he's 22. Making him an adult in the literal sense, but a kid in the way he handles business.

His PbNation name is: ShockThis03

I'll post up some pics whenever I get the chance to take em.

[behemoth]

I'd stab him.

[__Phoenix__]

[Tao]

Wow, this is just a horror story.

So I made a deal with a kid on PbN to trade a cocker + cash for his Gen-E matrix. He insists I ship first and has decent feedback so I figure what the heck, why not.

I ship out a beautiful, flawlessly working pre-99 cocker last wendsday. I get a PM saying he recieved it and it looks great etc etc, and he'll ship out saturday or tuesday.

I recieve a package today, open it up, and sure enough. Theres my cocker.

I then get a PM from him saying:

"hey sry about the hold up i didnt get a chanc to tell u i shiped your gun back cuz there was a slight problem with it sry... i shiped it tuesday cuz i didnt get to the post office on saterday in time and monday was a holiday so they wernt open"

I look at the cocker only to realize that the RAM HOUSING is bent into the front block. The pump arm is bent, and it's missing it's hard to find shocktech trigger guard. It looks hile he used it as a hammer.

This gun is in such bad shape it won't even cycle. Keeping me from reselling it without dropping even more money into it.

Anyone ever have anything like this happen before?

Have you tried asking for YOUR e-matrix???

[neppo1345]

Have you tried asking for YOUR e-matrix???

Yeah, he still hasn't responded to my PM's So we'll see.

Upon forther inspection: HE DIDN'T EVEN CLEAN OUT THE BARREL. Meaning he clearly had the gun aired up and cycling. Wether he actually had it on the field or not I'm unsure.

Night Before shipping:



EVEN MADE A VIDEO TO SHOW HIM IT WAS TIMED:




What I got in the mail today:

[Tao]

Yeah, he still hasn't responded to my PM's So we'll see.

Upon forther inspection: HE DIDN'T EVEN CLEAN OUT THE BARREL. Meaning he clearly had the gun aired up and cycling. Wether he actually had it on the field or not I'm unsure.

Well my advice is not to touch that gun, put it back in the box and set it asside, at least until you exaust all options with him. Technically it is still HIS gun by contract (and the matrix yours) so I wouldn't even bother fixing it until there is no chance of getting the matrix from him. Unfortunately your remide is to sue which is probably not worth it, but I would still put pressure on him and see if his sense of decency (if any) will show.

[neppo1345]

Well my advice is not to touch that gun, put it back in the box and set it asside, at least until you exaust all options with him. Technically it is still HIS gun by contract (and the matrix yours) so I wouldn't even bother fixing it until there is no chance of getting the matrix from him. Unfortunately your remide is to sue which is probably not worth it, but I would still put pressure on him and see if his sense of decency (if any) will show.

Yeah, its already back in the box under my bed.

he sent this back when I demanded he:

1. Pay to fix the gun.
2. Buy the gun outright and I send it to him to fix.
3. Give me my Gen-E and finish the trade.

"no dude im not doing anything i sent u back the gun cuz it wasnt working when i got it if somthing happen to it in the mail i have insurence on it...if thats the case i want pics of the gun to see whats wrong"

I subsequently sent him both the before and after pictures as well as the video of it shooting.

-Tim

[__Phoenix__]

Timbo: I know a buddy who may or may not have some parts for that cocker frame of yours.
I'll see what I can do.

[Pneumagger]

That's Bull!

Make a complaint with the authorities. Looks like you have before and after proof.

[don miguel]

did you trade through paypal? you said you added cash. nice cocker BTW.


///he he, I thought this thread had something to do with Jesus.