Its a smart parts product, I dont care if it comes with its own ref to make sure that what you hit calls its self out on the first shot or its tech to fix the gun should it break or a chaueffer to take you to the field to play im not buying one.
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I owned one for just over 2 years (bought one the day they were released). I personally never had a problem with it that couldn't be fixed. I never changed out the board, but I changed out just about everything else. That is one of the things I loved about it. I'm always tinkering around with my markers and it was constantly changing. Here are some pics:
1st aftermarket body was a Cougar River Carbon Fiber BLUE w/ matching Grip Panels:
Then, I went to a more conventional Deadlywind FOEHN in GunMetal Grey w/ an FBM SITH v1 frame:
Finally, I ended with a 1/1 Warped Sportz Dark LECA Series Olive w/ Olive Dust Tattoo:
You can customize it to your liking, much like a Mag. No one really gives you as much crap as others may lead you to believe. It's not the marker that tags someone out, it's the player.
Smart Parts, as evil as they may be, actually cornered the market with a low cost higher end marker. Sure, it's a "beginner" marker, but it has the potential to keep up with and surpass those higher priced. I loved mine, and I'm sorry I ever got rid of it.Comment
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Little late to the party but I'll say this:Originally posted by paintballfiend
They of course do not suck.
And of course , most of them are NOT broken out of the box.
SP has sold and continue to sell like a bajillion of them a year , and hundreds of fields at least are using them as rentals.
None of the would be true if the 'sucked'.
For a couple hundered w/ some minor twaeks , they can and will hang with anything else out there. If taken care of , even tho they do have some inexpensive parts an materials in them , they can and will last a number of years of regular use. Imagine how much use a Rental gets and how gentle rentors are on them.Logic Paintball Forums
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I give ION owners ALOT of flack because I had to school some idiot-underaged-did-not-know-what-his-parents-bought-him-for-his-14th-birthday ION god at my local field.
He seemed to think that an UP'ed ION was faster, better, and cheaper, than a stock Shocker I had just purchased.
So we set my price of my Shocker to $600 bucks and called it stock.
Then, after going over all the prices thrown around for the body, bolt, feedneck, trigger frame, barrel, etc. He didnt like the fact that his $900 ION was still slower, more expensive, and had a very bad grouping of shots in rapid fire than my "stock" Shocker.
People do not think before they open their mouths (me included!). This is very true the more younger the player and the more expensive the gear they have strapped to their body.
A $1800 EGO is NOT going to improve your game unless YOU improve your game. A Shocker, semi-auto in my hands is no faster than an EGO, semi-auto in my hands. My fingers move just as fast.
I think the ION was good for what it was marketed as, an "entry level electronic marker".
Making it to be more than that is just a waste of time. And by that I dont mean upgrading it, I mean by words. Its an ION, it has its own classification in the paintball community. Tippmann Carbine 68s were and probley always will be labled as a "rental gun". But they were like the AK-47 for the paintball community back when electros were not as big. They worked all the time, they ran great in the rain, and I have personally seen one get run over by a van, washed off, hopper changed, and re-chronoed at the field legal limit. They were the flagship of the beginner guns back then.
Do I think IONs suck? No,... I do think MOST ION owners suck. Average age at my field that owns an ION is 15,.... and thats a guess. But they all act like they are 8 so Im guessing Im about right!
I do know 2 guys who bought IONS for a backup gun and they are just awesome players. But its not the gun that made them good or bad players. The ION carries a label of "n00b" in my eyes just as much as Automag carries a label of "dinosaur" or "dead" outside this forum.
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p8ntbal4me, the tippmann procarbine/68's watever, still are the Ak47 of the paintball world... they always work, no matter what you do to them.Comment
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Yeah,. I was just using it as an example because I compared Tippmann to AGD in another thread 2 months ago.Originally posted by mag_lover05
I still have my Tippmann Pro-Lite,.... it still works just like it always has.
Ill take solid and reliable over shiny and new anyday of the week!_______________________
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Amen!Comment
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I still wonder why the hell any of you care what other people shoot?
Let them make their own choice, it isn't any of your business.
Grow the hell up already.Comment
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Originally posted by __Phoenix__
I think you missed some of the point to the post.
My point was that its not the ION that sucks, its the person that uses it COMMONLY that I have issues with.
And I dont think its because of the ION either, more its due to the reasons that the ION is an entry level marker and entry level markers mean entry level players that do not know what we know yet.
I definately DO NOT agree with you on your point of that we should not care what other markers other players shoot. You SHOULD care. Thats how you decided what type of guns you like and what ones you dont.
I never would have been put on to mags from my cockers had a player not let me shoot my first mini-mag with an autoresponse frame on it. I thought it was awesome. I asked quesitons, saw alot of the older more seasoned players were shooting them,... so I bought a AGD product for my next purchase.
IMHO you should be aware of what other players shoot. Why do you think the ION became so popular? Because of its price? Because of its speed? If you were to walk up to a ION shooting player right now and ask them, "hey, what do you like about that ION?" They most likely will say, "Awe man! Its wicked fast, cheap (in-expensive), and easy to use. You can get a TON of upgrades for it,.... etc." If you asked me about my Twistedreflex cocker I would say, "Because I wanted a gun that no one else has, I paid $2,300 dollars for it, its fast, and looks awesome."
Depending on the type of player you are, you might go with the ION or my gun. The ION may turn you on because its fast and cheap. If your on a budget, that will be the gun for you! The cocker I have might be something to think about in the future, or, if you collect guns you might want to buy it from me.
What Im saying is that its important to keep up with the times on the markers other players use just as much as it is to keep your home computer updated as the market changes. Your home computer is only new for a few months,... then the parts and technology become outdated and you have to either spend little amounts at a time or wait a few years, then upgrade.
Just my HO.
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And despite your huge response,
it STILL doesn't matter what someone else shoots.Comment
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Originally posted by __Phoenix__
Your pretty bitter man,.. this is the second post today Ive seen from you where it looks at if you posted after someone slipped something in your Cheerios.
Glad to see you think with a flat head instead of a level one._______________________
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Resorting to insults?Originally posted by p8ntbal4me
Typical AOer fashion.
What about what i said doesn't make sense, or makes me sound bitter?
Who cares what someone else shoots.Comment
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Man, just buy a Nerve.
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no...just buy a classic mag, best $239 you will ever spend in your life.
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A classic mag for $239? You must have gotten raped. lolComment
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