Electro-Pneumatic Kit UPDATE!

[robertsr1811]

Sounds like a really cool setup you have going there. Keep us posted!

[luke]

Clippard sees the investment in the paintball industry and would like to help us build parts that can be used for us,.. the players.:

Interesting that they would consider this, how many are you going to have to buy in order to get them to develop a new product for you?

[RRfireblade]

IIRC , they wanted 5-10,000 when I spoke to them a few years ago.

[Chronobreak]

IIRC , they wanted 5-10,000 when I spoke to them a few years ago.

yeaaaah, good luck with that since....nevermind

[RRfireblade]

Humphrey wanted quantities of 100K to supply my trigger switches.

Then K2 pissed 'em off over price arguing and 'we' lost the whole deal. Thought they could make 'em cheaper in China themselves.

2 years laters , I'm still waiting for 'em to show up.

[BigEvil]

Clippard may be different. They may produce/alter parts in small quantities, but rape you on shipping and handling.

[captian pinky]

can i have one for free haha cool idea intrested in the ram i think that if this fails that even the ram will survive for pneu maggers when is the expected realease date or is there one

[p8ntbal4me]

Interesting that they would consider this, how many are you going to have to buy in order to get them to develop a new product for you?

They are going a few routes first then jumping into specifics for us, the AGD community.

Specifically they are starting with their solenoid, dropping the voltage from 12 to 5-6 range.
Next they are looking at the MPA3, meging it with the solenoid and reducing the overall size of the unit so that its no more than 13mm wide for an intelli frame.

Rob passed me over a designers name, along with an engineer that works with the solenoid directly. These 2 individuals (I was told) now do NOTHING but work on this project.

How many of them do I have to buy you ask?
None. I really cant go into specifics on it because the second I do,.. this project will come to a close.

I do have to buy a certain number of units, but the cost per kit will cover my expenses soon as it hits the market. I have money to invest to some extent. So just watch it unfold!

Release date (for my goals) is a year. Models for testing will be in use as of,.. NOW! LOL!
The real non-bias testing will be at Tunaball. Im gonna take the kits, install them and watch players reactions to the workings.

I'll keep you posted on whats going on for sure!

[Chronobreak]

They are going a few routes first then jumping into specifics for us, the AGD community.

Specifically they are starting with their solenoid, dropping the voltage from 12 to 5-6 range.
Next they are looking at the MPA3, meging it with the solenoid and reducing the overall size of the unit so that its no more than 13mm wide for an intelli frame.

Rob passed me over a designers name, along with an engineer that works with the solenoid directly. These 2 individuals (I was told) now do NOTHING but work on this project.

Why?

Because of the fact when I started rambling off Clippard parts for the cocker, the MPA3 (which Rob didnt even know he had for a usable product!) being used in hundreds of self installs, I sent him a copy of all the photos (I'd say every single one on here) of the pneumag setups we have done. I showed him the "E~" EP install, sent him to BigEvilonline.com to check out the EvilMag,.... lastly,... I sent him pictures of Coolhands masterpiece the Logic UMF. After that,.. he was sold

How many of them do I have to buy you ask?
None. I dont mean to rub it in, but I do have a connection between myself and Clippard that works in my favor over the "other guy" that wants something made.
I really cant go into specifics on it because the second I do,.. this project will come to a close.

I do have to buy a certain number of units, but the cost per kit will cover my expenses soon as it hits the market. I have money to invest to some extent. So just watch it unfold!

Release date (for my goals) is a year. Models for testing will be in use as of,.. NOW! LOL!
The real non-bias testing will be at Tunaball. Im gonna take the kits, install them and watch players reactions to the workings.

I'll keep you posted on whats going on for sure!

sounds good, put me down for one(as it looks like a 1 year deadline is still far under what DW and ptp are looking like..or even coolhand for that matter...

but , i am concerned as if these do sell well, are you woried about any possible patent infringements?

[CoolHand]

[etjoyride]

let me know as soon as there ready, maybe i'll just leave my airwalk frame alone until these kits come out (although i don't think i'm actually that paitient.)

I think you said previously wither in this thread or another, but what is the est. price range for this kit???

[Shane-O-Mac]

Indeed.

That right there is the reason I didn't go gangbusters to begin with. Before the EP design I had at least three operational MP (mechanical pneumatic) designs. The fact remains that there could be a case made for it to be an infringement of at least two, maybe three patents.

Did you at least notify Clippard of the IP that is out there, or are they leading with their chin on this one?

And BTW, I know imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, but could you not rub our nose in the fact that you somehow managed to talk a large company into taking ~E's idea and my implementation and running with it quite so much? Thanks.

Also, how many units did you project to them that you'd sell? 'Cause it took months to sell all of my UMF preorder slots, and even if I counted every single person who inquired about wanting one (never mind if they have money or not), to date I could only have sold about 35-40 of them. I'd be damned impressed if you sold A hundred, much less hundredS plural.

You might want to let your "buddy" in on the joke so he doesn't get fired or reprimanded for spending the companies time and money on a, while not entirely pointless, shall we say less than favorable project with possible legal ramifications.

I dunno, maybe I'm just jealous, but if I honestly thought I could have made a thousand of the UMF's, sold them, and gotten out cleanly, I would have. I didn't. Tells you what the future looked like to me. The proverbial handwriting on the wall said "Hell NO!"

I was thinking the same things. I hope we are wrong, and all goes well, but most large companys that develop NEW products will NEED to sell alot more than what your going to sell, IMHO. And the teaser " I have an inside but I cant tell you" is just trying to show off, you shouldnt have said nothing about it.

But good luck!!!!!!

[Corbet]

I've had a pnuemag project in process for over a year now. If they do come out with these parts I'd be estatic.

[p8ntbal4me]

Posted an answer to your posts Coolhand.

After a long thought of reading it a couple more times,... it was deleted.

Good Luck with your work.

~ P8nt

[armyboot]

If I could have a reliable electro framed mag I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Keep AO updated.