So I need a new gun....

[going_home]

Wrong URL

Epic has wonderful efficeincy and does not work on co2 it works on ca. check out the site onlyepic.com for more info or pm me.

Heres the right one :

http://www.icepaintball.com/On-line%20sales.htm

I'd like to get one just to see what its all about.

[CKY_Alliance]

wht does birth control have to do with anything?

Umm ye I'm not sure either...

[Caboose]

Ok Can you guys give me the effecincy #'s of the:

A1
07 borg
07 EGO
DM7
PM7
anyother high end you feel I should look into

For tank sizes:
68/45
68/30
45/45
45/30

Making a life changing desion shoulden't be so god damned hard

My DM6 gets 1200 off of a 45/45 (before I tuned it) and about 2000 off of a 70/45 (so maybe like 1900 off a 68/45). DM7 would get higher numbers.

[cyrus-the-virus]

So macdevs claim of such high effeciancy is just hype?

[luke@york]

nope, i can get nearly a full case of paint from a 68 bottle on the 07 as i could with the 06, they are seriously efficiant, the tourneys i play in will only fill to 3000psi due to insurance or something and i can still take as much paint out as i want and have air left after a game.

macdev FTW

[SpecialBlend2786]

nope, i can get nearly a full case of paint from a 68 bottle on the 07 as i could with the 06, they are seriously efficiant, the tourneys i play in will only fill to 3000psi due to insurance or something and i can still take as much paint out as i want and have air left after a game.

macdev FTW

I can get nearly a case off with my Sonic borg as well

[68magOwner]

My DM6 gets 1200 off of a 45/45 (before I tuned it) and about 2000 off of a 70/45 (so maybe like 1900 off a 68/45). DM7 would get higher numbers.

....if the numbers you are quoting are accurate, you may have the most efficient dm6 in existance.

Dye advertizes 1400 shots off a 68/45 and thats about what people typically get with a dm6.
And the dm7 is only marginally better if at all.


the sl74 should get 1600 off a 68/45 with the LP valve setup installed, and signifigantly more with the high pressure vavle installed (both are included with the marker)

edit- and for the record, trauma has a hard time getting their dm6's to shoot more than 4 pods and a hopper with their 45/45's (hence why many switched to larger tanks) thats half the # of shots you are claiming to get, and thats with professionally set up markers.

[aqua_scummm]

wht does birth control have to do with anything?

Umm ye I'm not sure either...

Placebo effect? Not just in birth control. The idea that if they tell you it will shoot straighter you'll believe it to the point of ignoring the fact that it's just like any other gun.

[Caboose]

....if the numbers you are quoting are accurate, you may have the most efficient dm6 in existance.

Dye advertizes 1400 shots off a 68/45 and thats about what people typically get with a dm6.
And the dm7 is only marginally better if at all.


the sl74 should get 1600 off a 68/45 with the LP valve setup installed, and signifigantly more with the high pressure vavle installed (both are included with the marker)

edit- and for the record, trauma has a hard time getting their dm6's to shoot more than 4 pods and a hopper with their 45/45's (hence why many switched to larger tanks) thats half the # of shots you are claiming to get, and thats with professionally set up markers.

I have many witnesses that saw me dropping 12 pods per game at XPSL Bakersfield about a month ago. I even had air left over.

[punkncat]

I have to agree with SpecialBlend. If you are looking at an Angel, go after the G7 platform for now.

I really don't dig the borg, I guess its a personal thing really.

The 07 Ego is WAY light, even more than the Mini. They are great markers and hold their value well (considering). I don't own one as I can't justify spending $1100 on a marker, but hey you have an angle on that anyway.

[68magOwner]

The 07 Ego is WAY light, even more than the Mini. They are great markers and hold their value well (considering). I don't own one as I can't justify spending $1100 on a marker, but hey you have an angle on that anyway.

no, the 07 ego is not lighter than the mini

the sl74 is however.

[cyrus-the-virus]

I'm really leaning tward the cyborg.....

Cyborg, A1, PM7, or ego...

[68magOwner]

I'm really leaning tward the cyborg.....

Cyborg, A1, PM7, or ego...

do you have any way of shooting each marker (sorry if you already answered this)

cyborg looks amazing on paper, but, I have yet to be impressed with any of them, even the ones that shoot nice, i still cant stand the feel, just not the marker for me.

Pm7? Why not go for the dm7?

A1 is a fine marker, but probably not going to the the efficiency your looking for (its good, but not great)


egos- the ONLY gripe i have about the 07 line of egos is how loud they are, other than that, they just shoot/feel on par if not better than anything else.

that being said.....I dont plan on picking up any of the markers mentioned above. I pretty much found what I like, and own it.

[cyrus-the-virus]

do you have any way of shooting each marker (sorry if you already answered this)

No, the nearesst field is a good 1 1/2 hour away.... If I could I woulden't have even started this thread. But no I haven't answered that..

I have gotten a chance to shoot a A1 and the chance to hold a 06 ego....but past that I'm in the dark here...

Pm7? Why not go for the dm7?

I don't know if I will like the UL frame or not....

God I wish e-mags got better effecincy.... I'd just go buy one of them...

[CKY_Alliance]

I'm really leaning tward the cyborg.....

Cyborg, A1, PM7, or ego...

If you are considering the PM7 then you will probably want a UL frame which is another 250
and then you might as well go with the dm7 specially since the bill is not on you...

I personally shoot a pm6 with UL (not-so milled pm7) and I would just get the DM7 if it were me..They both shoot pretty much the same if set up correctly, but the dm7 has a little more length...try em all if you can.

All of them are solid markers, well I believe they have worked all of the kinks out of the A1 so it should be....but the rest are for sure and they will all accomplish the same thing, the ego and borg will get better effiecency then the other two (well not 100% on the angel) it just comes down too personal preference..athstetics and feel..

Placebo effect? Not just in birth control. The idea that if they tell you it will shoot straighter you'll believe it to the point of ignoring the fact that it's just like any other gun.

Only problem with that is no one told me it shoots straighter..I've shot the gun along with many other matrices from dm3's,Pm5's to the 07's and in my personall opinion it shoots somewhat different then other matrices, like I said it may have just been his Im not sure...but it had a straighter tragectory in the fact that it didnt seem to drop off as soon (as soon as normal drop off..not if there were a problem with the gun type drop off)
So ye it's not the "placebo" effect its the I expierenced the firggin thing effect.