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  • Lenny
    I AM the AO famous!
    • Dec 2003
    • 1628

    #16
    Originally posted by Ninjeff
    Tell me more Lenny.
    Well, basically a Spydermag is an Automag with a modified Spyder e-grip trigger frame. There are two ways to do this mod. Either turn around the solenoid ("flipped noid") or modify the sear ("sear mod").

    This can be cheap, or expensive. I've seen eframes go for as little as $25 on eBay before. So take that, new ULT, and the labor done by Luke, you're looking at a $165 egrip for your 'Mag.

    Or... you could buy a new Spyder with a "pretty" frame, pick up a T-Board (or a Virtue whenever they come out), buy some eyes, have the body drilled for eyes (Luke does this as well), have some eye covers milled (or cut down an eBlade cover), new trigger, lighter switch, etc. Now you're looking at a $300-$400 egrip.

    Luke can answer all of your questions. Just PM/email him. Make sure you check out his website first, though. Just so you're not pestering him with an already answered question.

    Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
    ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

    Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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    • wjr
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 995

      #17
      Dirt Cheap Pneumag Frame

      -Get in contact with Clippard distibutor
      -Buy MPA-3 for $6
      -Buy Barbs for $4
      -Buy 50ft of hose for $10 and sell some in the B/S/T
      -Get in contact with Fabco distributor
      -Buy MSV-2 for $10

      -Go to ICDowners.com and buy a BKO trigger frame for $15
      -Buy a stock cocker LPR for about $5-10

      Grand total:
      $50-55, assuming that you didn't sell any of the 50ft of hose you bought.
      Last edited by wjr; 04-16-2007, 03:10 PM.

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      • Cow123
        Registered User
        • Feb 2007
        • 145

        #18
        I like spydermags, but maybe I'm biased.

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        • Mongoose
          VenomousDesigns.com

          • Nov 2006
          • 1593

          #19
          I would either go sydermag with luke.
          or if your gonna go pnuemag...i would contact cyberave68....he just finished my project. he does all the work and anno, it came out great!

          another cheap way to go is a hyperframe or booyah...should be around 150 if not less

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          • tech-chan
            is the TKO of design.
            • Nov 2006
            • 875

            #20
            Originally posted by wjr
            -Get in contact with Clippard distibutor
            -Buy MPA-3 for $6
            -Buy Barbs for $4
            -Buy 50ft of hose for $10 and sell some in the B/S/T
            -Get in contact with Fabco distributor
            -Buy MSV-2 for $10

            -Go to ICDowners.com and buy a BKO trigger frame for $15

            Grand total:
            $45, assuming that you didn't sell any of the 50ft of hose you bought.
            That needs to be stickied.

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            • wjr
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 995

              #21
              Originally posted by tech-chan
              That needs to be stickied.

              lol, I wouldn't sticky it yet. I forgot to put the LPR in there.

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              • Lenny
                I AM the AO famous!
                • Dec 2003
                • 1628

                #22
                Originally posted by mongoose
                I would either go sydermag with luke.
                or if your gonna go pnuemag...i would contact cyberave68....he just finished my project. he does all the work and anno, it came out great!

                another cheap way to go is a hyperframe or booyah...should be around 150 if not less
                Pneumagger can also build you up a pneumag. I've played with him many times and have shot a ton of his work. He's a stand up guy.
                Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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                • snoopay700
                  Serious About Men

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3071

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lenny
                  Well, basically a Spydermag is an Automag with a modified Spyder e-grip trigger frame. There are two ways to do this mod. Either turn around the solenoid ("flipped noid") or modify the sear ("sear mod").

                  This can be cheap, or expensive. I've seen eframes go for as little as $25 on eBay before. So take that, new ULT, and the labor done by Luke, you're looking at a $165 egrip for your 'Mag.

                  Or... you could buy a new Spyder with a "pretty" frame, pick up a T-Board (or a Virtue whenever they come out), buy some eyes, have the body drilled for eyes (Luke does this as well), have some eye covers milled (or cut down an eBlade cover), new trigger, lighter switch, etc. Now you're looking at a $300-$400 egrip.

                  Luke can answer all of your questions. Just PM/email him. Make sure you check out his website first, though. Just so you're not pestering him with an already answered question.

                  www.LukesCustoms.com
                  When viewing luke's site for best results use internet explorer, some of the links don't work in other browsers.
                  Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                  • Tao
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 834

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ninjeff
                    Really? Ive always thought E-Mags ran upwards of $700.00? And thats just too much for me....im a poor musician after all.
                    Maybe way back. they are $1000 new. Used x-mags are $800-1000 Used emag go for $300-500 depending on extras. (I am not too sure I never did much shopping for emags recently)

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                    • ta2maki
                      Registered User

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 159

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ninjeff
                      So, i must admit, ive been watching a ton of tourny vids and it got me to wondering....

                      how can you make a lag walkable? I know three ways.....Xvalve/ ult trigger.......pnuemag.....and putting an electro frame on a mag. Whats the best, cheapest, easiest, and most reliable way to do it? Pros/Cons? Educate me please.
                      Actually, thats only 2 ways. Xvalve/ULT is not very walkable on it's own and I would say the Xvalve is a prerequisite for a mag you intend on walking at high rates of fire to avoid shootdown.

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                      • Ninjeff
                        it only takes one.
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1205

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ta2maki
                        Actually, thats only 2 ways. Xvalve/ULT is not very walkable on it's own and I would say the Xvalve is a prerequisite for a mag you intend on walking at high rates of fire to avoid shootdown.

                        Fair enough. Thanks.

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                        • Mongoose
                          VenomousDesigns.com

                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1593

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Lenny
                          Pneumagger can also build you up a pneumag. I've played with him many times and have shot a ton of his work. He's a stand up guy.
                          Yes i forgot to mention him.
                          i tried to get him to build me one but he was very buisy.
                          do you know if he does E pnuemags?

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                          • Lenny
                            I AM the AO famous!
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1628

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mongoose
                            Yes i forgot to mention him.
                            i tried to get him to build me one but he was very buisy.
                            do you know if he does E pnuemags?
                            Yup! He's doing up my UMF right now with an Ion board!

                            ...And after he's done with this semester, I think he has another EP job fitting parts into an AirWalk frame.
                            Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                            ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                            Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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                            • Mongoose
                              VenomousDesigns.com

                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1593

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lenny
                              Yup! He's doing up my UMF right now with an Ion board!

                              ...And after he's done with this semester, I think he has another EP job fitting parts into an AirWalk frame.
                              Wonder if he would make me a E pnuemag with my new chimera frame

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                              • Lenny
                                I AM the AO famous!
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 1628

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mongoose
                                Wonder if he would make me a E pnuemag with my new chimera frame
                                He probably would after this semester of school. Finals are comming up and he's been busy (thus the reason he isn't posting on AO as often). I'm going to ask him to do an EP on my AirWalk once I get it.

                                If you want, I'll sell you my UMF + everything you'll need for it (milled v/a, LPR, rail, frame and guts)... IF you don't want to wait. I was thinking about selling it anyway since I'll have an AirWalk EP.

                                If you insist on it being done to your Chimera, may I please have permission to shoot it a little? Joe (pneumagger) only lives, like, 5 miles away from me.
                                Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                                ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                                Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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