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  • Lord Vader
    Dark Lord of the Sith
    • Feb 2001
    • 505

    #16
    That's hard.


    "I am your father."
    --Darth Vader

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    • Whisky
      WHO? ME!
      • Feb 2001
      • 426

      #17
      WEll well

      If the only issue possible is that the bolt will wear fast i think i'll give it a try anyway. Probably that weight saving won't be that much as you say Tom, i don't know much about metal. I just like to experiment. Like the on\off switch i installed on my Emag to replace the yellow tab, everybody was saying not to do this, and i tried anyway, of course the only issue possible was that the switch would burn ( but it don't ) so i installed 5 other switches on Emags and Micro Emags. Well people here are now calling Emag's here... SR Emags ( Super Rej Emags )

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      • Redkey
        Registered User
        • Jan 2002
        • 176

        #18
        Hey BlackVCG...

        Where do you have access to a metals lab?

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        • BlackVCG
          Grubby Owner

          • Oct 2000
          • 4956

          #19
          My school campus (Oregon Institute of Technology) has a machine shop that covers 2 acres. One of the "buildings" inside the main building is a metallurgy lab.
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          • slayer
            Registered User
            • May 2001
            • 669

            #20
            a bolt that cost more than the gun

            is it possible to make a hardened SS sleave and back part (where the sear catches) and a titanium infrastructure and fuse them together. I would cost a lot I suppose but if you don't have to replace stuff like on the superbolt it may turn out to be more cost efficient. Although...I kind of enjoy the recoil produced by a standard bolt. That way when I shoot someone they have stitch marks that go up their body. I could never figure out why that was, but the gun raises up just a little. Actually when firing on someone far away, i shoot conservatively with elevation and let the gun work up and meet them The results are good and the amusement is great
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            • Magluvr
              Registered User
              • May 2002
              • 158

              #21
              Originally posted by AGD
              Ti is not hard enough for use as a bolt period. Don't waste your time. The stainless we use gets hardened in a heat treating process, non-hardened bolts wear out in weeks.

              We did make some Titanium valves once and they were so close to regular ones they got mixed into the works and went out on regular guns. We were very dissapointed in the weight savings, not that much really. Ti is best were you can use less of it than aluminum.

              AGD
              So does the same apply to Titanium barrels? Since the bolt will be so hard compared to the barrel, that it will rub through. Or is the bolt setup in such a way that it will not touch the barrel; it might come really close but it will never actually touch the barrel itself.
              Are there any other downsides to titanium barrels I should know about?
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              • RT_Luver
                Co-Official AO Penguin
                • Jan 2002
                • 1827

                #22
                I've heard that titanium is very strong and can withstand weight but is also brittle and couldn't withstand the constant impact that the bolt recieves and eventually would break
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                • tremis
                  Friction Circle
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 191

                  #23
                  What about the Venom bolt idea? Titanium bolt with a stinless flange to catch the sear. The face and power piston were a real hard nylon.And had a foamie. Super light. And it worked just fine. When I installed mine the fps dropped about 3-4 but you could feel a difference when you shot. The wear on the Ti part against the inside of the bolt spring was negligable. Dozens and dozens of cases of paint, and the logo wasn't rubbed off. It cost 50 bucks, very comparable to other bolts.Why not something like that but in the longnose style?

                  Tremis
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                  • keiphers
                    Team Aftermath
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 241

                    #24
                    Have him make like 5 test bolts. I'll test one of them, even if I have to pay a little.
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                    • [M@g_D@ddy]
                      Nissin from pbn <Epic>
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 199

                      #25
                      yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea, me too me too
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