Premium paint in high pressure markers.

[Brad Quillen]

I'm basically new to paintball... although I'm a 5 year veteran, that was a decade ago, so I'm a rookie all over again. At any rate, I must have a poor understanding of what's going on in the guts of a paintball gun. I just want to know if it's true that one can't shoot high-end paint (ie. Allstars or whatever) in a Mag due to excessive paint breakage. Do lower pressure guns use a larger volume of gas to propel the ball or something? Does a high-pressure gun's bolt travel faster?

At any rate, I was going to try some Marbs yesterday, but I was a little scared to get them due to worries over my Mag being to hard on them. I chose Draxxus Blaze which did pretty good.

[cyrus-the-virus]

I'm basically new to paintball... although I'm a 5 year veteran, that was a decade ago, so I'm a rookie all over again. At any rate, I must have a poor understanding of what's going on in the guts of a paintball gun. I just want to know if it's true that one can't shoot high-end paint (ie. Allstars or whatever) in a Mag due to excessive paint breakage. Do lower pressure guns use a larger volume of gas to propel the ball or something? Does a high-pressure gun's bolt travel faster?

At any rate, I was going to try some Marbs yesterday, but I was a little scared to get them due to worries over my Mag being to hard on them. I chose Draxxus Blaze which did pretty good.

you can use anykind of paint out of an automag.

[SummaryJudgement]

It comes down to bolt impact on the paintball. Concerns with tournament-grade paint come because it is more brittle. More force on it can cause it to break in the marker easier. And higher cycling rates of new electros can lead to chopping easier if the loader doesn;t keep up or the ball doesn't feed properly.

The mags bolt has a fair amount of strength behind it and if you have high ROF you may chop more if the ball doesn't feed properly. The mags Level 10 kit gets around the problem of bolt pressure by being having two stages to it's travel. The first stage is a low pressure force until the bolt reaches the point where the breach is closed and the ball fires, at which point it is high pressure when the gas exits the bolt.

A good fast loader that can keep up with your max ROF will prevent chopping, and the Level 10 bolt kit will prevent chopping as well, but also has a little less pressure on the ball whil epuching it forward to the firing position.

Check out the details about the Lvl 10 bolt in Tom's Tech Tips and the Tech forum for more info.

Hope this helps

EDIT:
Cyrus is right, but "better" paint does have a better chance of breaking just because that's what it's supposed to do. But even ten year old Brass Eagle yellow will break in the gun if a non-Lvl 10 bolt hits it when it's not fed entirely............

[hmudd13]

I use Marbs as my primary paint in every marker I own.
Often I'll emtpy a case without a break.
That's including mags.

[paint magnet]

Not all premium paint is brittle...Marbs and RPS premium are relatively thick-shelled. I'm not sure if Proball is considered ''premium'' or not, but that stuff bounces off trees.

[Tao]

Not all premium paint is brittle...Marbs and RPS premium are relatively thick-shelled. I'm not sure if Proball is considered ''premium'' or not, but that stuff bounces off trees.

Wow I wouldn't mind some of that "trick shot" paint!!

[SummaryJudgement]

Not all premium paint is brittle...Marbs and RPS premium are relatively thick-shelled. I'm not sure if Proball is considered ''premium'' or not, but that stuff bounces off trees.

True, I really liked Marbelizer back in the day. It was the first "good" paint our field started to carry. They shot great and broke well. It had been a Brass Eagle only field up till then (you could bring your own though). The Brass Eagle yellow used to bounce off of trees! The Marb was a little too pricey for me, if I was splurging I got good old Premium Gold

[sixtoes1313]

I prefer to shoot allstar's or RPS premium. So far Ive shot 2.5 cases of the RPS premium through the mag with lvl 10 and no breaks from the bolt(broke once or twice removing the twist lock barrel) Mags are pretty good on paint.

[onedude36]

just dont shoot rediculously brittle hellfire through it and you will be fine.

Where is Lohman's devilmag/hellfire pic?

[Chronobreak]

just dont shoot rediculously brittle hellfire through it and you will be fine.

Where is Lohman's devilmag/hellfire pic?

[onedude36]

I knew you had my back.

[jenarelJAM]

I don't get why he would keep shooting after the first or second chop...

imo, it just isn't worth it...

[Chronobreak]

I don't get why he would keep shooting after the first or second chop...

imo, it just isn't worth it...

i believe it was a fpo tourney or something of the sort

[mag_lover05]

RPS rampage is cheaper than Premium, and shoots better, specially in mags.... it works wonders. i find that it always breaks on my target, and its only $38 a case

[rkjunior303]

i believe it was a fpo tourney or something of the sort

That was at IAO.

They had Draxxus - Blaze, Midnight or Hellfire for quality... He went with the tourney-grade ultra brittle hellfire and it was chop city.. i shot about 3 cases of Blaze in kevmaster's xmag that day with NO issues. I personally wouldn't shoot hellfire, ultra evil, inertia, etc in one.

as for the chops, when you're ripping a string sometimes you can't stop right away.