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  • Crazy
    Denver Altitude
    • Dec 2001
    • 1148

    #16
    look a shocker!
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    • RSUAVE911
      Posts: 0
      • Nov 2001
      • 395

      #17
      I think the tequila matrix looks way better than any angel, cocker, or especially emag. They have the spped of an angel accuracy of a cocker, and the efficency can be solved by a bolt kit. The new ones come with it and supposed to get 1200 from a 68/4500. I own an emag too.
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      • nutz
        l0l
        • Oct 2001
        • 1412

        #18
        LOL!!!

        matrices are not at all like shockers... they may be hogs like them and shoot a bit like them but they do not look like them or weigh has much as a shocker... i think matrices are very nice guns and easily compete with all the top guns out there today..

        as for the LCD, word is on the matrix forum at pbnation is that they are being made now and will be forsale in the short future...

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        • manike
          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

          • Jan 2001
          • 3820

          #19
          nutz I put together the first ever prototype Matrix LCD with Dave from Aardvark, at the World when Richmond from Diablo handed us the prototype board.

          It is the coolest LCD board yet! The prototype said 'POW' everytime you pulled the trigger. I hope that is one feature they keep for the production models.

          The new bolt kit is better, but it still isn't as efficient as many other guns.

          Don't get me wrong I think it is a great gun and love shooting it, but it could be better :)

          manike
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          • RSUAVE911
            Posts: 0
            • Nov 2001
            • 395

            #20
            Is it BS that it can get 1200 from a 68/4500?
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            • manike
              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

              • Jan 2001
              • 3820

              #21
              Originally posted by RSUAVE911
              Is it BS that it can get 1200 from a 68/4500?
              I don't honestly know. I haven't done a proper test on the new bolt kit set up. But I was shooting one at the World Cup trying out different hoppers and stuff.

              Getting two bags of paint (1000 balls) was pretty much what I was getting. But then I wasn't doing a proper count and test and checking the fill etc.

              It is way better than it was originally but still doesn't compare to my Sov II or my Autococker by any means :)

              manike
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              • RSUAVE911
                Posts: 0
                • Nov 2001
                • 395

                #22
                Yeah I am not doubting that, but you give a little you take a little, ya know?

                I am not going to cry over a little less shots but its a lot of shots which really scared me.

                And I know you said you didn't really fully test it out yet, but would you reccomend a 88/4500? :)

                Thanks in advance.
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                • manike
                  INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 3820

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RSUAVE911
                  And I know you said you didn't really fully test it out yet, but would you reccomend a 88/4500?
                  Yes absolutely if that size of tank fits you and you are comfortable with it :)

                  I have 68 and 88 ci tanks. And I like both. I have no problems using the 88 sizewise so it's what I often use.

                  manike
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                  • BOOT
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 61

                    #24
                    I am very curious as to how it will review. The only thing that I was sceptical about the Matrix was its rotten efficiency. If what they are saying is true (about the new bolts) then it's definitely better. Granted it won't be the most efficient marker but it's a lot more competitive with what is out there. It's also nice to see that Airtech/Diablo has gone back to the drawing board to improve the efficiency issue. Look how long the Shocker has been around and there hasn't been much improvement in gas efficiency.

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                    • manike
                      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 3820

                      #25
                      It was actually Greg Duncan from Aardvark Paintball who fixed the efficiency. He doesn't work for Airtech or Diablo. (He did at one point though).

                      manike
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                      • steveg
                        Member
                        • May 2001
                        • 460

                        #26
                        strictly speaking it wasn't airtech/diablo that fixed the
                        efficiency problem it was an aftermarket company, arrdvark
                        that did that. They did however sell the rights to the new
                        design to airtech.
                        And the LCD going POW just might con me into upgrading my
                        grip. (everyone has to be a sucker for something)

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                        • BOOT
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2000
                          • 61

                          #27
                          Ooops...My bad.

                          Well it is nice to see that the off the rack version is coming out with the more effecient bolt. Sorry if I stepped on any toes.

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                          • RSUAVE911
                            Posts: 0
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 395

                            #28
                            My God do I want one.
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                            • Aliens-8-MyDad
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                              • Oct 2001
                              • 2244

                              #29
                              OMG that brick thing almost made me crap my paints, oh wait.. nm. *comes back from the bathroom* heh... man thats some funny stuff there.
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                              • Ityl
                                Registered User
                                • Nov 2000
                                • 706

                                #30
                                The only things I see wrong with the gun:

                                1. effeciency (not a big deal really)
                                2. looks (not a big deal either)
                                3. size, bigger than an emag (only real downfall)

                                It comes with the centerflag reg right? so as long as the electronics keep the bolt movement consistent, the gun must be pretty consistent. And as long as it recharges fast (up to 16 bps) than it has the basic features that make an emag great. Then through in it has lower chamber pressure and less pressure moving the bolt than an emag. And the one out now is cheaper.

                                I'm not saying that the EMag isn't a great gun, but I think there are a couple major things with the emag that are it's downfall.
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