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  • Ninjeff
    it only takes one.
    • Jan 2007
    • 1205

    #166
    i sure would like them (agd) to put out some type of pnue-mag. That would be cool.

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    • nathanjones008
      Magpride008
      • Nov 2006
      • 515

      #167
      i have heard of companies paying sp, but who has? Is the electronics just on electronic in general? I havent heard of anyone paying them yet.

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      • RogueFactor
        Registered User
        • Dec 2001
        • 633

        #168
        Originally posted by nathanjones008
        i have heard of companies paying sp, but who has? Is the electronics just on electronic in general? I havent heard of anyone paying them yet.
        The two bolded statements contradict each other. Youve heard of companies paying SP.....but havent heard of anyone paying them?

        For those who havent been keeping up on current events...

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        • RogueFactor
          Registered User
          • Dec 2001
          • 633

          #169
          For those not familiar with past events, here are a few others as well...





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          • BigEvil
            www.BigEvilOnline.com

            • Feb 2005
            • 9333

            #170
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            Its want to - not can. I am sure if TK wanted to TK could.

            "But, but SP..." That whine doesn't work, there are too many counterexamples of companies operating in todays legal environment. Some that started with less than AGD.

            I will accept that TK makes the decision based on what he sees appropriate, and respect him for that.

            Can't is a cop out invented by others.

            How is TK not wanting to loose his shirt a cop out? AGD simply cannot and will not attempt to compete in the market that you want it to. Perhaps to some it is an overly conservative approach, but unlike other companies - AGD is still producting and believe it or not, SELLING markers. Like I said before, logic can only make us assume that they must be making money somewhere since they are still in business. Henseforth- it was a wise business decision if not unpopular.

            Where are these counter examples of companies you speak of? How many are either thriving, not in some convoluted legal snafu, or will be around in 5 years?

            -AKA: stopped making guns, probably forever
            -ICD: first company in the lawsuit-frenzy crosshairs and was eventually sold to NPS
            -Centerflag : stopped making e-frames all together
            -Most of the aftermarket board makers: already served papers with settlements or cases pending
            -Racegun: No longer making eframes OR aftermarket cocker bodies
            -NPS/PMI - currently in the crosshairs
            -Planet Eclipse: forks over big$ to be able to make electros.

            AND the big three - SP, DYE and WDP all beat the crap out of each other in court to position themselves to work together to control the industry.

            So these examples you speak of, are companies who have to pay royalties on their products to someone else OR stay embattled in legal trouble.

            AGD does neither.


            So by what im getting your line of thought is... AGD should
            -just pay the licensing fees and make new eguns,
            -which not only are more expensive to start,
            -BUT will have to have an additional cost factored in for the licensing fees,
            -only to go into a market where they will not sell.

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            • nathanjones008
              Magpride008
              • Nov 2006
              • 515

              #171
              sorry i meant i have heard that some companies had to pay up but whom.

              the reason i ask there is a whole bunch od electros that are produced on a regular basis. I guess what i am, saying is i do not see a slow down(releases), or a increase of prices due to royalties companies that have to pay sp.
              should a patent have a expiration date?
              thanks
              Last edited by nathanjones008; 05-26-2007, 06:18 PM.

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              • AirAssault
                Those aren't pillows!!!!

                • Apr 2003
                • 1566

                #172
                Originally posted by BigEvil
                Well.. thoretically you can add anything, eyes, flux capacitor, kitchen sink, anus tickler, whatever.. BUT, if it is economically unfeasable to do so.. then Rogue is correct in stating that nothing new can be added. At least not from the factory, it just aint gonna happen.

                Anus tickler, Ill take one!!
                Due to the objections of a certain Canadian, this space is now for rent.

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                • Ninjeff
                  it only takes one.
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1205

                  #173
                  I have made it a point to not buy anything made by smart parts.

                  At all.


                  Which kinda stinks because i hear the freak kits are pretty spiffy. Oh well.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #174
                    Originally posted by BigEvil
                    Where are these counter examples of companies you speak of? How many are either thriving, not in some convoluted legal snafu, or will be around in 5 years?
                    Cannot is a cop out. No animosity here TK made the decision that best suited him, which is exactly what he should have done.

                    But it seems to me that DP and FEP seem to have been doing ok with smaller shares of the market, Infiniti is still around. I won't count Invert as it is part of something bigger.

                    Not being into the market place is a business decision based on risk to reward ratios. As long as TK is happy I surely am not complaining about that decision. My only "beef" is with the nonsense that some people roll out. Not you
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • speed_ga

                      #175
                      Ok AGD...you have tons of people who support the heck out you! why not make a new product or version and look at these suggestions and come up with some new product???????????GO TOM GO TOM POST THE REASON!!!!!!!???????????????????????????
                      I mean this thread has over 2000 views!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????? ??

                      do you want people at fields to see a mag and go:
                      or see a new and improved style mag and go:
                      Last edited by AO Moderation Team; 05-27-2007, 11:22 AM.

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                      • braaatz
                        member
                        • May 2001
                        • 206

                        #176
                        Originally posted by speed_ga
                        Ok AGD...you have tons of people who support the heck out you! why not make a new product or version and look at these suggestions and come up with some new product???????????GO TOM GO TOM POST THE REASON!!!!!!!???????????????????????????
                        I mean this thread has over 2000 views!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????? ??

                        do you want people at fields to see a mag and go:
                        or see a new and improved style mag and go:
                        RogueFactor found this post from Tom K that can answer some of these ?'s
                        Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.
                        HR minimag
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                        • ThePixelGuru
                          Guru of Pixels
                          • May 2005
                          • 1461

                          #177
                          *Sigh* Finally got around to reading this thread, and it's pretty much the same thing that gets reposted constantly. The Automag is a niche market, people. They're used by rec and woodsballers, and by anyone who knows what to look for in a mechanical marker. AGD won't pay SP and won't hype their markers with a load of BS like most other people, so they're no longer competitive in the tourny scene. Shame, though, considering what the 'mag theoretically could be. MQ 'mag, anyone?

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                          • nathanjones008
                            Magpride008
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 515

                            #178
                            in closing

                            i have learned much from this forum. SInce it is dead, it looks like i am making the closing remark. If the company is complacent with the current status quo, then i will not be worried. WHat-ever happens happens. Until there is anything new,( whichi highly doubt now) i will enjoy my pmr and my two classic mags.

                            peace.
                            Last edited by nathanjones008; 05-29-2007, 05:22 AM.

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