Tom: FYI a collection of observation about products

[giant1515]

back to the grip frames

I've seen it mentioned to run with a carbon fiber 45 frame, maybe get it from WGP or something. I recall from my cocker research that the stock cocker frames tend to break. Before I bought my mag I spent a lot of time on some cocker forums and saw a lot of complaints about breaking cf frames. AGD is about quality, and I was wondering if the reputation of a shabby 45 frame would follow into the products if they use the one from WGP or build their own.

Personally, the grip frame is why i didn't buy a new stock mag. I waited on a used one that had a 45 frame on it.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Snooky
I very much hated the grey body on my mag...
The plastic frame and grips on the automag is also a big turn off.

I like the grey body. I like the carbon fiber frame also. It should have a double trigger, however. I also want performance over looks, period. But then at almost 42 I'm probably the minority.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by AGD
Ball beakage first (getting close now) cosmetics second. We ARE working on it. Please stand by.

AGD

If someone at WDP said this, they'd be labeled a heretic.

[pito189]

Originally posted by Miscue

If someone at WDP said this, they'd be labeled a heretic.

hahahahahahahah! They would be covered in love juice and feathered.

[Russ]

OK, here's my 2 cents...

Dump the plastic ("carbon fiber") frames all together. No one I know really want plastic more than aluminum (there will be exceptions)

Skip the plastic 45's. Making a new mold (or at least inserts) would be prohibitively expensive.

Make an intelli with less machining (no intellifeed feature) and put it on all AGD markers. With the increased quantities, AGD could get his supplier to lower the costs per unit.

Dump the standard feed also. Power/vert feed only.

[Drizit]

mags have just gotten down to a resonable price, putting on an aluminium frame will drive that cost back up to what it was before or perhaps even higher, however a CF .45 double trigger frame would not increase the price a badly (when you devide up the cost of the mold by a few thousand peaces) i know injection molds cost around $10,000 canadan, now say you want it paid for in 2 years, and we'll say you sell 1000 mags a year. then the price per mag will have to go up $5 that sounds a lot better then around $100 per to mill metal frames.