Paypal Is Crooked

[nutz]

whats the best way to get my money out??

[Potatoboy]

Transfer it to a bank account, then wait a few days and call your bank to make sure the correct amount is there. Once you have it confirmed, cancel your account.

(If that's what you plan to do)

[Kaiser Bob]

Ah well, I smell a class action suit brewing.

[than205]

Correction to my last post.

Potatoboy has the process to close your account right on the money. Sorry for the mistake everyone.

[Hexis]

Just some c2it fun:

One of these links goes to the signup page and if you sign up I get a $5 refferal bonus. The other doesn't. Can you tell the difference just by looking at them?

<a href="http://qksrv.net/[email protected]" target="_blank" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.c2it.com/';return true;" onmouseout="window.status=' ';return true;"><img src="https://www.c2it.com/C2IT/images/c2it_bug.gif" width="88" height="31" alt="Link To C2IT" border="0"></a>
<a href="http://www.c2it.com"><img src="https://www.c2it.com/C2IT/images/c2it_bug.gif" width="88" height="31" alt="Link To C2IT" border="0"></a>

If you click you will see the difference in where they link.

BTW I really like c2it. Anything within the US is totally free. It's a real bank. They have a toll free support/customer service number (that's damn easy to find). I would also suggest everyone dump paypal.

[cphilip]

The C2it is nice but I have never gotten it to actaully work. Doesn't seem to want to process for me and then after a number of attempts it will not allow you to try anymore. I'll try again but I was a bit frustrated with it the first time I tried to use it. Yes everything in my account was double checked for accuracy and it just would not work.

Pay Pal? Never leave the money in there for an instant. transfer it immediately.

[Hexis]

call c2it. They are very helpful on the phone. cphillip paypal can and has in the past removed money from linked accounts without any authorization.

[Webmaster]

I may not know the whole picture - but as far as stolen credit cards - thats status quo period. You assume that risk when dealing with credit cards. What pay pal does is allow you to accept CC payments with out your own merchant account. Very useful. However, if that charge is from a stolen card, VISA will yank the money from pay pal - and pay pal from you. Which is the same thing if you did have a merchant account. If you had your own merchant account and you sold $1000 to a stolen card YOU would get $1000 yanked from your account from VISA. VISA protects its customers above the merchants. My friend who owned a computer business lost $10,000 due to stolen cards.

So - while pay pal may suck in other ways - the fact they yanked your money is the same everywhere when you deal with stolen cards.

[Potatoboy]

Agreed webby, howeever freezing entire accounts for an undetermined amount of time while other money is still in the account is unacceptable.

[mikey101]

has anybody ever had paypal send a check to you? how did it work out?

[Webmaster]

rouge good point - but the if that is such a concern then they should get a merchant account....

Paypal may not be perfect - but its definately helping more people than its hurting.

As for freezing the account - how do they know your not part of the scam to launder stolen money via the CC? I dunno - probably a reason for this.

any way - moving to feedback.

[Hexis]

Webbie, spend 10 min reading stories on www.paypalwarning.com or www.paypalsucks.com Paypal may be good if nothing goes wrong, but yer basicly screwed if something does go wrong. Their phone number is well hidden (tho paypal warning has a nice list). They are terrible about respondinf in a timly manner to _anything_. paypal warning has a nice list of alternatives. That's where I found c2it

[donggie]

I've also lost a considerable amount on paypal. Most recently over 500 dollars. Now my account is not only zeroed, It's freaking negative. Click on the paypal logo on my website and you'll see thta they don't work. instead, they go to paypalwarnings.com. or something like that. Paypal sucks. The best way is either thru a merchant account as webby said or thru C2it.com

I've been saying this for quite a while.

Don

[jimmyjobob]

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well, i think the obvious has been stated.

webmaster - i understand your rational but overall i think they are still much to blame. perhaps i can understand removing the funds that were 'fraudulent' but freezing the entire accnt along with funds that were received after the fact is completely wrong. i cant even access transactions that happened in the past. that is ridiculous. not only that, im sorry but their one-sided swift justice 'well its probably illegal money' approach is wrong. without even investigating.

like donggie said, not only is my account 0, its negative meaning they took the next two incoming payments. it happened overnight and i had no control. sorry but i dont think yanking the amount in question along with any other funds coming in is right.

i have also heard instances where individuals made a claim from an ebay transaction saying that the item they recvd was not what they were sold. as a result, paypal yanked the funds from the sellers accnt and immediately gave it to the buyer. this with no defense or questions from the seller. in other words, hes probably guilty lets give the buyer his money back. meanwhile the buyer is out his money, a product and has a handful of headaches.

imagine this, i buy an angel of ebay, i get the angel. next day i make a fake complaint to paypal saying that i recvd a product that was not as described or better yet just say i never got it.
meanwhile, paypal then takes money out from the sellers account and gives it to the buyer. as a result the buyer (thief) has an angel as well as his money back. how in the hell can you avoid that?

im sorry but they still suck and their practice is unethical any way you look at it. of course i took a risk and got bit. end of story. my point is i recommend highly avoiding them. the fact that people keep saying 'never keep over 100 in the accnt' or 'deposit it immediately in your account' leads me to believe that people are unsure and that there is a risk indeed.