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  • Guitar of Ozz
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 4

    #1

    AlienAbduction11 Possible Scammer

    This is very long but please read...

    Ok so I was browsing these forums looking for something to trade for my Cocker. I found his thread selling his Alien Abduction Angel so I decide to give him an IM and see if he's interested. After he sees pics of my Cocker, he decides he'll trade me his bushy for it instead. I agree since I was looking for bushies as well. I tell him the cocker needs a new reg and may need to be re-timed. I didn't know for sure seeing as I didn't have another reg on hand.

    We agree to ship out Saturday the 24th of January, but neither of us could get it out that day. So we decide to ship out the following Monday, the 26th. I ship it out after school that day and come home only to find out that he could not ship it because there was a snow storm that closed the Federal Buildings. No biggie, I "have his word" he'll ship it out Tuesday the 27th.

    Didn't talk to him on Tuesday but I check the Delivery Comfirmation number wednesday and it says he received my Cocker. I try to contact him on AIM but he ignores me and blocks me on another of his SNs. I started to get worried and went one of my other sn's pretending to be interested in his Angel then later said who I was and asked why he blocked me. He blows up on me and says "Your ****ing cocker doesn't work. The expansion chamber leaks" Ok I tried telling him that he already knew it needed a new reg but he refused to listen and blocked me on that SN as well.

    That's it, I decide to give him a call. Sure it was 12:45AM in Maryland but at the moment it was only 9:45pm in Cali and time zones weren't top priority in my head at the momment. He answers but as soon as he finds out it's me, he puts the phone down. After a few momments of silence his mom picks up and lectures me about calling at "quarter to one" and what not.

    Back online, he IM's me:

    DaRoBmiKe11: DONT U EVER CALL MY HOUSE THIS DAMN LATE !!!
    Guitar of Ozz: I dont care how late it is when I'm gettin screwed over
    Guitar of Ozz: are you either shippin the bushy?
    Guitar of Ozz: or shipping the cocker
    Guitar of Ozz: either one and mail fraud wont be filed
    Guitar of Ozz: as of now, i'm filling out the form right now
    Guitar of Ozz: your choice bud
    DaRoBmiKe11: will u chill out dude the bushy is being sent out so chill ... u asked me so many times it made me not want to answer ... file for mail fraud lol .... but its getting sent lol
    DaRoBmiKe11: my mom jus called an had your # reported an they will be contacting u an your parents..... an having a talk with your parents
    Guitar of Ozz: not until i see some comfirmation number
    Guitar of Ozz: thats ok
    Guitar of Ozz: And even if you do that, still tell your mother I apologize, but as you can see this is very serious to me
    DaRoBmiKe11: now will u chill out the ****in gun is packaged at my friends house ... if u call my house again i will not send it
    Guitar of Ozz: but my parents would be more than glad to sort this out, so I have no problem with that
    Guitar of Ozz: you were supposed to ship it out tuesday
    DaRoBmiKe11: dude have u ever herd of snow storm this is the first day i got mail in like 4 days ... marlynad has been out of school since mon ..
    Guitar of Ozz: Yes I know that, and I know you were'nt lieing about that
    Guitar of Ozz: but it makes it hard for me to trust you when you blow up on me like that
    DaRoBmiKe11: i have to go to bed bye u will have your gun sometime soon so chill out ...
    Guitar of Ozz: listen, it better be here by next friday
    Guitar of Ozz: or im filing the fraud
    Guitar of Ozz: not this weekend
    Guitar of Ozz: but the one in feb
    Guitar of Ozz: i've done this many times before, dont think nothin will happen
    Guitar of Ozz: its a big offnce
    DaRoBmiKe11: its my friends bushy an my friend has the cocker .. not me i did it as a favor for him .. an anther dont ship something unless it works ... cuz u lied
    Guitar of Ozz: no i didn't
    Guitar of Ozz: i told you exactly what was up with it
    Guitar of Ozz: new reg and needed the timing done
    DaRoBmiKe11: will u give me a couple of days .. my friend an i are goin to the paintball shop sat.. an we will get it checked out an sees wat it needs an find out if we want the cocker or the working bushy ok
    Guitar of Ozz: i have that conversation saved
    Guitar of Ozz: well ike i said, i give you till friday to have that bushy at my doorstep
    Guitar of Ozz: or cocker
    Guitar of Ozz: but in all honesty, its just a new reg it needs
    DaRoBmiKe11: how about i let u know when its shipped jus incase its not there on time in the mean while dont call my house
    Guitar of Ozz: which you said you could take care of
    Guitar of Ozz: you have until friday
    Guitar of Ozz: that gives you all this weekend
    Guitar of Ozz: and up until next wednesday to get it shipped out priority
    Guitar of Ozz: at least need a comfirmation code by thursday
    DaRoBmiKe11: ok
    DaRoBmiKe11: i will dude we were gonna send it out today but ....when the gun was completly ****ed we were pissed an were gonna ask for u to pay for out shipping to send it back
    Guitar of Ozz: ok tell me exactly what was wrong with it
    Guitar of Ozz: now that were both chilled out
    DaRoBmiKe11: night alright !
    DaRoBmiKe11: my mom is making me go to bed
    Guitar of Ozz: ok but seriously, friday
    Guitar of Ozz: im not kidding about this either
    DaRoBmiKe11: k
    DaRoBmiKe11 signed off at 9:56:18 PM.

    Ok so now I know its his "Friends Bushy" Next he IM's me next monday saying...

    DaRoBmiKe11: hey my friend get p[aid this fri. so is it cool if he sends out the bushy this sat. or mon. ???
    DaRoBmiKe11: he said he promises he jus dont have money for shipping
    Guitar of Ozz: damn dude, you can't spare him the 13 bucks
    Guitar of Ozz: i need it this weekend
    Guitar of Ozz: theres a tourney and if not i'll have to use some dudes spyder
    Guitar of Ozz: ????
    DaRoBmiKe11: impossible seeing as im not working this week an i have no money plus me an him are in debt ...
    Guitar of Ozz: how come?
    DaRoBmiKe11: cuz we ow ppl money
    Guitar of Ozz: i absolutely need it by friday though
    Guitar of Ozz: cant find a way to get 13 bucks
    Guitar of Ozz: from the parents or anything
    Guitar of Ozz: ?
    DaRoBmiKe11: i owe my parents $900 an he ows his mom 350$ we are cut off from borrwing money
    Guitar of Ozz: and how will i know that he's gonna ship it out saturday and you guys arent trying to post pone me from filing the fraud
    Guitar of Ozz: just put yoursefl in my shoes
    DaRoBmiKe11: well u will have to look at it this away he dont get paid till fri. night .. so if u want to summit fraud on fri. be my guest ... im sure they will laugh when they go to take care of it an all of a sudden the gun somes to your house !
    Guitar of Ozz: naw if it gets to me i can call it off, of corse, thats not a problem
    Guitar of Ozz: can you absolutely 100% make sure i have a comfirmation code
    Guitar of Ozz: friday? can he ship it friday?
    Guitar of Ozz: put it this way, I need to have at least a comfirmation code by friday and i wont file it
    Guitar of Ozz: sound fair
    Guitar of Ozz: ?
    DaRoBmiKe11:: sure man ...
    Guitar of Ozz: im trying to be as fair as possible here bro, i really dont wanna make this a big deal, but i will if i have to
    DaRoBmiKe11: but if u dont chill out with harrasing me for something its only gonna take me longer cuz by law if u threaten or harass me in any way i could report an we dont want that now do we ???
    Guitar of Ozz: do you feel i'm harrasin you?
    DaRoBmiKe11: yeah .. no stop nagging for the damn gun when i said u will get it
    Guitar of Ozz: ok i'll leave you alone, just get me the comfirmation code by friday
    Guitar of Ozz: no more excuse aight?
    DaRoBmiKe11: i never no ... i cant control my friends money ... an by the way ... jus to inform u by u calling several times that one night at 1 in the mourning demanding your gun an **** .. well i talk to my uncle an thats harrasment .. an by law i could confirm this to a judge an theres no real way for u to get out of it for the simple fact that u call at 1 an its on my caller ID !
    Guitar of Ozz: I only called once, and that wont hold up nearly as well in court as mail fraud
    Guitar of Ozz: your mom called me back the second time
    Guitar of Ozz: but listen man like i said, i dont want to make this a big deal, but if you feel the urge to, then thats ok, all i'm saying is that you and you're friend have had a week to ship it out already, and your gettin another week, so just do me a favor and get me the number on friday
    DaRoBmiKe11: umm problem is i never said i wasnt gonna send it an u called me once an i hung up an my mom once an woke up the house an u were being persistant ...on gettin your gun ... my uncle is a lawyer an since i never told u i wasnt gonna send it its not mail fraud cuz we never hasd a decided date the gun had to be in by !!
    Guitar of Ozz: you didn't hang up though
    Guitar of Ozz: and i stood on the line cause i didn't know what happened
    Guitar of Ozz: and then you mom answered
    DaRoBmiKe11: yes i did !
    Guitar of Ozz: we never hasd a decided date the gun had to be in by
    Guitar of Ozz: i said this friday
    Guitar of Ozz: but im giving you guys more time
    DaRoBmiKe11: no i never when we first agreed said it had to be there n any date ... u are demanding when u want it which is harrasment ... no company can harras a customer for there products other wise they are at fault if i would have never talked to u an didnt send it u could have summit a fraud but u talked to mean have harrased me an my family there is nothing for u to gain but only to loose !!!
    Guitar of Ozz: well did we not both agree on shipping on that one monday
    Guitar of Ozz: exactly a week ago?
    DaRoBmiKe11: no i said i would try but it was snowy out
    Guitar of Ozz: yup and i knwo that
    Guitar of Ozz: so i said ok
    Guitar of Ozz: then we agreed tuesday
    Guitar of Ozz: and if i read right, you saiid "you have my word"
    DaRoBmiKe11: dude u are digin urself a whole so chill !!!
    Guitar of Ozz: Im chill man i'm just defending myself here
    Guitar of Ozz: i dont want to start anything
    Guitar of Ozz: if your gunna send it, then just do it and we can drop this, if your not gonna send it then just tell me
    DaRoBmiKe11: the more u type the more i feel violated ... an i already told u i didnt aprreciate u harrasing me ... an now u are continuing to ...
    DaRoBmiKe11: i told u when my friend gets money he will send it !!
    Guitar of Ozz: well i offered to stop IM'ing you as soon as i said all i need is to know that you will give me the comfirmation number on friday, thats all I need to know and I will stop "harrasing you"
    Guitar of Ozz: so can you assure me i will have a comfirmation number friday, thats all i gotta know
    Guitar of Ozz: actually make that saturday, since i know he gets paid friday so one extra day
    DaRoBmiKe11: i will not assure u cuz i dont know if he will get paid fri thats jus wat he has told me .. with the snow an all he hasnt worked so i dont know if he will get any im not making ne promises im jus sayin when he gets the money he will ship it !
    DaRoBmiKe11: good ngiht
    Guitar of Ozz: whatever, good night


    Ok so I decide enough is enough so I sent him this:

    Guitar of Ozz: Hey I'm tired of waiting for you to ship this out, and to be honest i have the feeling you arent going to ship it out, so just for my reassurance, if I dont have a Comfirmation number BY Wednesday 2/4/04 night, I will file the mail fraud.

    I file the Mail Fraud Thursday, then I IM him Saturday:

    Guitar of Ozz: so did you get the bushy shipped out?
    DaRoBmiKe11: my friend might have
    Guitar of Ozz: might have?
    Guitar of Ozz: is that a yes or a no?
    DaRoBmiKe11: idk i havent talked to him for awhile !
    Guitar of Ozz: ooh
    Guitar of Ozz: did you get my email
    DaRoBmiKe11: Dude if u want to get me for mail fraud go ahead nothing is stopping u ... the gun will be shipped an u will feel dumb so chill !
    Guitar of Ozz: well I already filed it, i'd rather feel dumb and reassure then dumb and worried
    DaRoBmiKe11: ok then .. leave me alone !
    Guitar of Ozz: i will leave you alone when i get a comfirmation number
    DaRoBmiKe11:
    Guitar of Ozz: whats this
    Guitar of Ozz: if you really wanted me to leave you alone you would just ship it and give me the number
    Guitar of Ozz: im not asking that much
    DaRoBmiKe11: if it was my gun i would but its my friends he has it not me !
    Guitar of Ozz: but you made the deal, you should ship it out
    DaRoBmiKe11: well he needs to give me the number so please leave me alone !
    Guitar of Ozz: well do you know for sure if he shipped it out or not?
    Guitar of Ozz: give me your friends screename so i can talk to him then
    Guitar of Ozz: and leave you alone
    DaRoBmiKe11: he dont have one !
    DaRoBmiKe11: if he did he would have done this **** himself !
    Guitar of Ozz: ok but since you did, you're held responsible
    DaRoBmiKe11: ok bye !
    Guitar of Ozz: ok the mail fraud is already filed
    Guitar of Ozz: so you can take the easy way or the hard way
    Guitar of Ozz: doesnt matter to me
    DaRoBmiKe11: ok bye !
    DaRoBmiKe11: if u filled it out then submit it ... an stop telling me about it !
    DaRoBmiKe11: now please leave me alone !
    Guitar of Ozz: already sent it, im just lettin you know that its already sen
    DaRoBmiKe11: ok bye

    So I suggest you think again about doing business with him. He's currently trying to sell his Alien Abduction Angel, and his Green Classic Automag.
    Don't get scammed!!

    http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...hreadid=124334
    Scammer!!
  • shanly
    RaInMaKeRMAN
    • Sep 2002
    • 32

    #2
    hey ozz,i posted in his thread about buying his mag..jus a few things i wanted to know..

    1. did you ever get a name or adress for this "friend"?
    2. did you follow through with the fraud?
    3. did his parents seem to know what was going on did they try to do anything?

    plz lmme kno cuz before i even think about doing buisness with this guy i want to find out as much as i can.thnx
    2k1 RaInMaKeR
    -----------------
    you laugh now,but when your sitting in the deadbox,think "dam, i got shot out by a brass eagle.."

    http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=718809#post718809

    my "WTB used paintball" forum

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    • Guitar of Ozz
      Registered User
      • Feb 2004
      • 4

      #3
      1. I was never told it was for a friend until after I sent my gun, and have yet to receive a name/address for this friend.

      2. Yes, Mail Fraud has been filed.

      3. I haven't spoken to his parents about this subject. So no, I don't think they know.
      Don't get scammed!!

      http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...hreadid=124334
      Scammer!!

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      • shanly
        RaInMaKeRMAN
        • Sep 2002
        • 32

        #4
        3. I haven't spoken to his parents about this subject. So no, I don't think they know.

        well now that might be a good thing to try now wouldnt it??
        2k1 RaInMaKeR
        -----------------
        you laugh now,but when your sitting in the deadbox,think "dam, i got shot out by a brass eagle.."

        http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=718809#post718809

        my "WTB used paintball" forum

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