G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[jade_monkey07]

holy crud muffins! people need to take a chill pill and let this guy do his magic!

[Andrew Cunje]

I have been able to keep in contact with GARF from day one. So far i have had all of my questions answered and am satisfied, even with delays so long as it means im getting a better product. For any of you that have actually tried to fabricate something your self...things RARELY go right the first time...

I recently got in contact to him to ship my ASA off and got as response within hours when i sent him the tracking number for the package....

so long story short...maybe you are just a picky whiny baby if you are complaining...or maybe you just ask to many damn questions... : )

~Andrew

[olinar]

Its not that these guys are iffy on whether the product will be good or not, hell a production pneuframe will be nothing short of amazing to be honest. BUT the whole devilmag issue left a bad taste in everyones mouth who wasnt involved and greatly angered anyone who actually paid for one.

I for one would like to see this come about when it was said to, I realize that itll be difficult to do something like this as there are always set backs but no one wants to turn this into another devilmag debacle.

::EDIT::btw im not on this preorder. just a stranger on the outside looking in.

[warbeak2099]

Gee, Garf and I have been communicating via PMs just fine. He said he just got my ASA and everything seems fine. He is communicating and keeping us updated. Like I said, for this reason he is not comparable to Devil's Den or Chris.

[olinar]

i didnt compare it to devilsden, i stated that no one wanted this to get to that level of production, even a day past the due date and it seems like everyone will jump on garfs butt about it.

I for one cannot wait for this to come out.

[Andrew Cunje]

HERE HERE OLD CHAP

[G-Force Tech]

Progress Report

Progress Report

First, I would like to apologize for the delay of product delivery.
The production process of the Mag frames and its internal components took much longer than they were projected.

Our goal is to produce a trouble free frame that will literally last a lifetime of use and at the same time, easy maintenance by anyone.
All the production frames will use off-the-shelf o-rings seals and are designed for easy disassembly for maintenance and servicing.

I am making this product progress announcement today, in order to let everyone know that a firm date for all orders placed up to today, will be shipped out on or before Feb 28, 2008.

If you have further questions, pm or email me anytime.

Best Regards,

Garf
G-Force

[Twistedpsyche]

Thanks for the update Garf.

[robertsr1811]

Mmmmmmm. Pneumatic goodness...

Can't wait. Thanks for the updates sir!

[93civiccpe]

Now everyone get off the man's back.. =).

Thank you for the update Garth and for finding time to post here as well as email all of us back who have been keeping in contact with you and bugging you with our many questions. I do not envy your job right now, but I am very appreciative of it. Thank you again and I can't wait to see the finished product!!

[rabidchihauhau]

THREAD SUMMARY

8/31/07: you can start placing your orders for the p-frame
9/1/07: production will begin in a week or two*
we "just need to put internals in a mag frame"
"its just a proto frame"
9/4/07 the frame will be commercially manufactured**
9/6/07 a release time is being targeted for a few months from now; most development is done, just final tweaking required.
10/3/07 testing is complete and the frame performed flawlessly***
10/10/07 frames can now be ordered

10/10/07 (RobAGD "actually never got to test it")****

10/11/07 the LPR needs more testing
the next production run will be Jan-Feb 08 for scheduled delivery of Mar-Apr
the first run of frames is confirmed
you can now order a micro lpr - expected delivery the end of December
10/12/07 the frame will be ready before the micro lpr
place your orders now
they are expected to ship in late December
10/20/07 performance videos posted
10/26/07 a leak in the LvL 10 used was fixed and some work was done on the trigger
10/27/07 we 'opted for this trigger guard design (over others)*****
11/9/07 there will be no production photos until the production run is completed
11/29/07 started production, delivery in mid December******

12/20/07 Emails were apparently sent to purchasers announcing a delivery delay*******

1/5/08 frames are still in production********
1/9/08 delivery will be made on or before February 28th

*that would have been approximately September 15th
**in house production or outside firm?
*** but a week later things needed more testing
**** why not?
*****42 (+/-) days following the scheduled start of production and the trigger frame design is being decided now?
******no public announcement
*******limited run 'in production' for 112 days?

[Smoothice]

I don't care enough to reread this thread to check your dates.

But to all new commers I would take the above post with a grain of salt.

[nate2k191]

THREAD SUMMARY

i'm not affiliated with this thread, except by owning a mag; but i feel like you should be a lot less demanding, and more respectful.

It takes a lot of time and work that you haven't thought about. mind you, he's not a corporation like "dye paintball" either. have patients and be thankful someone is making another product for a mag.

[Chronobreak]

well i guess im stuck saying anything til the 28th now

thats another 4+ weeks(the original timeframe stated)

it seems as if they may have not had this project planned out as well as they made it appear.

hopefuly i am wrong in the end and the end comes alot sooner than feb 28th as thats 2 weeks after the date i wanted the gun for hence like i said one of the MAIN reason i purchased one.

i would rather be skeptical til the end than defending a comapny who no offence has a past of not producing items after making prototypes and hyping em up.

I feel sorry for those poor suckers that defended GA devil before he went awol, are people still waiting on frames?

[Ruler_Mark]

i'm not affiliated with this thread, except by owning a mag; but i feel like you should be a lot less demanding, and more respectful.

It takes a lot of time and work that you haven't thought about. mind you, he's not a corporation like "dye paintball" either. have patients and be thankful someone is making another product for a mag.

I dont care how what buisness you are you take peoples money then keep on bumping back the release date is skechy. Just keep in mind the maximum time you can wait before you cannot reverse the charge or cc dispute it is 90 days. civil court costs too much to be benefical.

I had a bad feeling about this from the get go. i doubt they will go sour on this like the devilmags did just a shame to miss release targets. If only they were a bit more honest from the get go however mabey they honestly thought they could have it done but do not want a sub par project so decided to piss on y'all to get it to a better standard before release. other companies would have realsed the sub par product and pissed off thier customers then realsed a V2 one a year later that was what the first release should have been