Cheater!

[kszyszkowski]

Sent PM. Will buy one form next batch...just let me know pls when to send paypal

[Ruler_Mark]

I tested these with a Palmers Micro Rock and they work great. It is a bit wider than most frames but will fit inside with a little milling in the grips. I like the Palmer because it is designed well with a big piston. I think those Dye bullet style LPR's have a big piston too but they are kind of long.

Most LPR's should work OK unless it has really stiff springs. Stay away from the Mako's. The springs are so soft that it wont even open at more than 750 PSI input. If you have trouble with your LPR at low pressure a trip to the hardware store for a softer piston spring might get it to do the job. I had an old STO type clone LPR at one time and I think it would have done fine at 10 PSI. It just depends on how it is sprung. If you can squash the piston spring in your fingers with medium effort then it will probably work.

2 thru 7 shipped today. The Grass Valley one will probably be there tomorrow. Here they come guys! Next round of shipping on Wed.

HAWT, if I have mine shooting mabey ill tote it around cup and let people shoot my mech "mini"

[Newt]

Thanks for the review, corriea! I've been looking forward to hearing a first-hand account on this little gem.

I was lucky enough to get one of these units from Zap in what I believe was a small pre-run before he started this thread. I have
had it running on my marker for 2 days now and I must say I am very impressed. First of all, Zap is a great guy to deal with, as you can all
tell from the frequent posts and updates in this thread. Zap sent me a PM or an e-mail at least once a week to let me know where he was in
the process of getting up and running in preparation for the pre-order. After a short delay for a few design changes, I had my "Cheater" and
a beautiful set of clear acrylic panels for my 'Telli. After I got it installed, I had a problem that actually turned out to be my sear, but Zap was
right there with helpful advice when I asked. So you all know that Zap is a great guy, and he builds quality stuff, and his customer service/tech
support is great too, but what you all want to know is "how does it shoot?". First let me say, I am not an "electro guy". I play mech. I usually
play rec ball or woods ball with my buddies, although I played in tourneys back in the late 90's. This is the first pneumatic 'Mag that I have
owned. My "trigger walking" skills are pretty poor, to say the least. However, I was able to get a nice, consistent string going. I would estimate
that the Cheater increased my ROF by about 65% over my regular 2-finger trigger style. The trigger-pull is short and crisp, although I would
second Zap's recommendation that you install trigger-stops. I think adding them to mine would probably make me even faster by taking some
of the extra travel out of the trigger. I have shot through two 68/3000 tanks in 2 days just messing around with this thing and getting a feel for
it in the back yard. I am really getting to enjoy it. All I can tell you besides that is get one if you can, you won't be disappointed...

[correia3]

^^^^^^^
NP. What I forgot to mention was how easily it installs. I had it in my frame and ready to rock in about 10 minutes. Probably less. Top-notch piece from Zap. No question about it.

[Ruler_Mark]

Im going to aussme the thin part of the rod goes into the cheat block?

[El Camino]

PMing

[gunman_2000]

I might be interested in placing an order when the next run or so comes along. Looks like a neat lil product. Seems to simplify the pneu-mag trend so it doesnt seem so large of an undertaking. At least thats how it feels to me.

[ZapTheMad]

Only got 4 out this time. 8 thru 11 shipped today.

Shooting for the rest on Fri.

[ezcreation]

Only got 4 out this time. 8 thru 11 shipped today.

Shooting for the rest on Fri.

Best news of the day!

[xero28]

Got mine in today!!

http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245964

Thanks Zap.

[splat15k]

Best news of the day!

Agreed!

[MAGnificent1]

I have used but operational Jt 3.5(?) grip frame which should work for this.
$18 shipped OBO

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Quote:
Originally Posted by greensplash
any way to rig a board to these to limit them to 10bps?



Yes.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245528

[TwilightG]

[vf-xx]

Just got mine in today. Looks nice and smooth.

Unfortunately apparently the Chimera frame is narrower inside than the intelliframe. I can't drop mine in

Zap, is there enough meat on these that I can file off some of the sides, or do I need to do all the modifications on my frame?

[Swamp Thing]

List

I am very interested in doing this to my Stormwalk. Put me down on whatever list I need to be on. I am PMing you now

Swamp