AO Army Jersey Pre-Order

[Cali_Mag]

Cali-Mag that was Poetry…hells yeah!

Cali-Mag took the words right out of my mouth

Really pissed off with this whole saga - can I please have an ETA for my jersey shipped to UK please!

Thanks guys, If this was real world stuff, I would of not voiced my issues so loud though, I would of rather taken it on face to face...

On that note.... Anyone else pay the $10 fee to have the logos removed and NOT get them removed? Ive pmed BT multiple times now since I received mine what the deal was, obviously no answer... I contacted Animal and spoke with Vallery, she informed me BTAutomag never paid a single dime to have any logos removed. He only asked them to make them smaller. Animal logo would have been the only logo they would of charged to be removed as the magpies and other logos were artist add-in graphics, not animals. So I wanna know, why the (expletive) did my jersey come with animal logos all over it when I even pmed BT before, AND after, sending my logo removal payment to confirm what I was getting from sending that payment. This (expletive) is a joke BT. I know I aint the only one who paid the extra. And Vallery even double checked that NO PAYMENT was ever made to Animal to remove any logos or designs. Fess up man, you just pocket peoples money??

Sorry Beemer, my bad. Fixed

[Patron God of Pirates]

That theory makes premium sense. BT started this whole thing, made up the Mag-Pies, organized what was originally expected to be a small (20ish) run of like jerseys into a huge order of highly custom ones, gun matts, barrel socks, etc., handled all of the communication, dealt with broken promises from multiple third parties, in a not for profit effort just to do something cool for a community that means allot to him, all so that he could secretly steal $10 from you.

Sorry for the sarcastic run-on sentence, but that accusation just doesn't hold water. IMO what happened here is that BT, being well intentioned and with ADD level enthusiasm, bit off what ended up being more than he could chew. However, he saw it through to the end and (from what I can garner here) almost everyone now has what they paid for and is satisfied.

I'm not saying that you aren't entitled to seek satisfaction. I just don't want people coming late to the party and getting the wrong impression of what happened here. Nobody has been fleeced, nobody is pocketing anything.

-The opinions expressed here represent those of the author and are not intended to cure, treat, or prevent any disease.

[kwik175]

Hats off to you PGOP for putting a little sunshine back on this rainy day. I honestly cant believe how irate some members are over something as petty as a jersey. BT took on a project and delivered a product. That's better than many of the previous pre orders that went south on here. My theory is that if you really wanted an AO jersey, you should have already had one. Even if he did make a few bucks on this deal, it seems as though he was drastically under paid. I commend him for even offering the selection that he did. It should have by all rights been a one color/style jersey and all the customer did was specify a size. BT became Animals secretary and custom jersey coordinator for the good of all of us for free. The headaches, stress, and all the BS from here was just an added bonus. And in case you're wondering, I also had a jersey, barrel sock, and gun matt ordered. I waited just as long as everyone else but just couldn't see the point in aggravating the situation further. If the only thing I had to worry about all day is a $100 jersey order, I may want to re check my priorities in life. Just saying...

[Cali_Mag]

That theory makes premium sense. BT started this whole thing, made up the Mag-Pies, organized what was originally expected to be a small (20ish) run of like jerseys into a huge order of highly custom ones, gun matts, barrel socks, etc., handled all of the communication, dealt with broken promises from multiple third parties, in a not for profit effort just to do something cool for a community that means allot to him, all so that he could secretly steal $10 from you.

Sorry for the sarcastic run-on sentence, but that accusation just doesn't hold water. IMO what happened here is that BT, being well intentioned and with ADD level enthusiasm, bit off what ended up being more than he could chew. However, he saw it through to the end and (from what I can garner here) almost everyone now has what they paid for and is satisfied.

I'm not saying that you aren't entitled to seek satisfaction. I just don't want people coming late to the party and getting the wrong impression of what happened here. Nobody has been fleeced, nobody is pocketing anything.

-The opinions expressed here represent those of the author and are not intended to cure, treat, or prevent any disease.

I never said BT started all this to get $10 from me, lol. My point is, you tell people that there is a charge for something specific, and there is no charge but you still take the money from them. That's called a lie. If the case is he cant figure out what happened to the extra because of all the issues with this then fine, send a pm back to one of the multiple ones you received explaining, "sorry, theres been a mix up and I wasn't able to get the logos removed, heres $10 back." boom, easy-peasy. And just because other people may have made bad sales or have horrible transaction abilities doesn't mean we should be ok with it when it happens, just cause it always happens?

Hats off to you PGOP for putting a little sunshine back on this rainy day. I honestly cant believe how irate some members are over something as petty as a jersey. BT took on a project and delivered a product. That's better than many of the previous pre orders that went south on here. My theory is that if you really wanted an AO jersey, you should have already had one. Even if he did make a few bucks on this deal, it seems as though he was drastically under paid. I commend him for even offering the selection that he did. It should have by all rights been a one color/style jersey and all the customer did was specify a size. BT became Animals secretary and custom jersey coordinator for the good of all of us for free. The headaches, stress, and all the BS from here was just an added bonus. And in case you're wondering, I also had a jersey, barrel sock, and gun matt ordered. I waited just as long as everyone else but just couldn't see the point in aggravating the situation further. If the only thing I had to worry about all day is a $100 jersey order, I may want to re check my priorities in life. Just saying...

Daaaammmnn.... Moneybags-Mcgee over here. A $100 isnt anything to you huh? I bust my arse on a daily to provide, and I'm actually an easy going, fun loving guy, always smiling, till you steal or lie to me, lol. I have a good company, an amazing home, and great friends. I love my life. The reason I have what I have is because I don't let people walk over me and take advantage. I love the comment about already havin an ao jersey though lol. you must be rich. Just buyin up jerseys left and right cause they look "pretty". I have no issues with any of yall. but kwik, you make it sound like its every AO'er for themselves, which aint even my thought process, this site and people have helped me out a lot, and I have no animosity or hate towards them. I tried taken care of all this strictly in pm between me and bt, but he wont ever answer his pms or respond unless an admin hits him up with a threat. You wanna bash me because I want what I paid for? what a jerk I am. sorry.

P.s. by the way BT, loooooved the troll letter your wife sent in the package lol, suuuuuper classy.

[TeamBob]

Pmed my address. Would like my jersey, socks, and mat

[kwik175]

I'm not bashing anybody in particular at all, Cali. I just find it hard to believe that given the history of pre orders on this site that a person could not assume there would be some risk involved. Only XMT, Cougar20th, and Luke have had successful pre orders, excuse me and apologies to any one else I missed in that statement. And as far as money bags goes, I feel that if you have $100 to spend on a paintball pre order then you have a $100 to waste. Even if you get the product, its still not paying your bills or putting food on your plate. Its paintball, a great hobby but a bad investment. I just feel all the bandwagon public bashing is unnecessary and quite childish.

[Laku]

Got the jersey today and I like it! Thanks for all the trouble you went trough BT.

[GEE TEE]

got mine as well

fit is bang on and quality is great too

[TeamBob]

Am I the only one to not receive their order yet?

[Ragu310]

No. I'm still waiting on a gun mat and trucker hat. I was able to pick up my 2 jerseys in person at Living Legends in May but I did pay for shipping so I guess I'll keep waiting. I bought a RT-Pro from Hawaii and I received it in 3-4 days so I got that going for me.

[TeamBob]

I'm starting to get a little upset at this point just about everyone has their jersey and or most if their stuff. I'd like mine now... I don't understand what the hold up is...

[Cali_Mag]

^^^ check BTAutomag's profile, he aint even been on in over a month... sorry to see that, hope the best of luck to ya though TeamBob.

[Ragu310]

Thanks BT, I received my refund for the trucker hat and received my gun mat yesterday. It's really cool.

[magman313]

wasnt the design supposed to be put up on animals site for the jerseys?

[BigEvil]

I'm starting to get a little upset at this point just about everyone has their jersey and or most if their stuff. I'd like mine now... I don't understand what the hold up is...

Have you tried to contact Animal directly?