Paintball Idea

[Spider-TW]

Wobble like a knuckle ball. If getting a ball to spin in a rifled barrel is difficult because of the liquid fill, a two phase fill would be worse. As athomas pointed out, the weight is all screwed up too. Not just the flight path, but the impact would be about half way between a regular paintball and a soap bubble. It would be pretty impossible to get it out of the barrel and have it break on impact. That and keeping helium contained in gelatin for storage would take a new $hell.

The Q-loader design could be adapted to a finned ball pretty easily. Give it a feed tray and put it in a two stage bolt/hammer gun like a cocker or the viking's closed bolt brother (forgot the name **Excalibur**) and you have a reliable system. But you're still stuck with the $400/case projectiles (if you are lucky). Having the chinese glue the little fins on would still cost too much.

[AnthonyDStone]

Slug shaped rounds

You could make them slug shaped,Rifle the barrel lightly and make it magazine fed,Lot of changes need to be made for this to work,You'd have to call something other than "Paintball" at that point.

Tony
Also a tear drop shaped ball might work well.

[Sumthinwicked]

the tear would work in nature there is a bud or of a plant purple floweres heavy wood and oval shapped leaves that flies hella far old woodsball trick LOL before the soap bubbles trick kinda dumb but worked well against the racoons and skunks when i was a kid

[snoopay700]

Same size but less mass should make the ball fly much less further in my mind.

It is a sleepy mind at the moment however.

You sir are correct, but it doesn't even have to be the same size, decreased mass in a projectile means it won't fly as far under the same forces, especially if the forces are changed to keep the velocity constant.

[athomas]

decreased mass in a projectile means it won't fly as far under the same forces

Thats not quite true. The same force will definately propel the projectile at a higher velocity which will make it fly farther. The problem is the higher initial velocity. If you reduce the initial velocity of the lighter mass down to the same value as an item with a higher mass, then the reduced force translates into reduced distance.

[spooky]

its called simunition

the cleveland police department trained my unit prior to my second trip to the desert in room clearing and the like. they had these modified smith & wesson model 659s that we shot the crap out of each other with and yes they are way more accurate.

http://www.simunition.com/index_en.php

i don't think the average joe is allowed to but the stuff yet

later
spooky

[Spider-TW]

the cleveland police department trained my unit prior to my second trip to the desert in room clearing and the like. they had these modified smith & wesson model 659s that we shot the crap out of each other with and yes they are way more accurate.

http://www.simunition.com/index_en.php

i don't think the average joe is allowed to but the stuff yet

later
spooky

I bet they're fun, but I bet they are expen$ive.

What was the range like on the ones you used?

[snoopay700]

Thats not quite true. The same force will definately propel the projectile at a higher velocity which will make it fly farther. The problem is the higher initial velocity. If you reduce the initial velocity of the lighter mass down to the same value as an item with a higher mass, then the reduced force translates into reduced distance.

Yeah, that's what i meant, so listen to that, not what i type. But yeah, i meant to say that the momentum will be less at the same velocity. Also, in projectiles you want something heavier just because of wind resistance and such it will go further, that's why we shoot balls full of stuff instead of ping pong balls.

[Freebird]

sorry to dig up an old topic, but what if you made the fill inside of the paintball Thicker, or Pressurized, No helium, because that would cause a wobble, Just fill it 100% with thick paint.?

[Sumthinwicked]

sorry to dig up an old topic, but what if you made the fill inside of the paintball Thicker, or Pressurized, No helium, because that would cause a wobble, Just fill it 100% with thick paint.?

still could seperate and have the same issues

[Miscue]

Vortex shedding... yo.

[Miscue]

[Sumthinwicked]

ohhh i want some of those to bad tey fit in shotgun shell and not barrel

[Freebird]

ohhh i want some of those to bad tey fit in shotgun shell and not barrel

i have 4 shotguns, im sure we can arrange for you to use one..... haha

[RavishingEddie]

A paintball will never be like a bullet because it is round and not good aerodinamic (sp).
The other big one is the liquid inside spinning and causing the ball to lose accuracy over a certain distance.

I don't think we would be able to change the shape of the paintball, but what if we fix the problem with the liquid paint inside?

Why not use two paintballs in one. A normal sized regular paintball with a miniature size paintball inside.