Marker Gas Supply Possibility...

[Warwitch]

Yup, that's why a nice 10 LB HPA tank would probably be best..

Why? If youre going to bother owning a 10 lb tank then just use it as a refill station and go tank on gun. I see no point in using any system requiring a back pack. It totally defeats the "self contained" advantages.

What I think the marker needs is a system that generates the air one shot at a time. Super fast recharge, very low volume. It would require the smallest of compression systems and the least amount of battery power. Just my .02.

[Hilltop Customs]

the smallest compression system would be one which fills a small reservoir tank over a period of time. The small reservoir tank would allow for quick bursts of shots with the pre-charged air. This is probably how that e-volt works, it probably takes a few minutes to fill a small reservoir which holds a volume for 6 shots. After the 6 shots are taken, it wouldnt shock me if you have to wait a few minutes for the reservoir to recharge.

[Tym]

Why? If youre going to bother owning a 10 lb tank then just use it as a refill station and go tank on gun. I see no point in using any system requiring a back pack. It totally defeats the "self contained" advantages.

What I think the marker needs is a system that generates the air one shot at a time. Super fast recharge, very low volume. It would require the smallest of compression systems and the least amount of battery power. Just my .02.

But what you are talking about would not fit on a marker. It would have to be a backpack or something similar.. Compressors are not small. The batteries required for compressing hundreds of shots would not be small, you would need a reserve tank of some kind, Then you have all kinds of noise issues to deal with..

Small reserve tank = HPA = Large compressor, large power consumption = large batteries.
Low pressure system = large reserve tank = large backpack, even Low pressure pumps (200psi and lower) are bigger than a 13ci tank. let alone the tank (it would be the size of a 10lb tank or greater) and the batteries required for operation.

The entire point of having a system than generates it's own air would be so you could play longer without refilling. But if you have to stop to recharge a battery or swap out batteries, you might as well refill you tank. you would only be trading refills for recharges at the cost of performance noise and size..

If you bothered reading the first post in this thread, you would have read:
"move the compressor/bottle/electric source off the gun,
put it in a back pack where the load can be better dispersed and is easier for a person to carry and we just might have a Paintball fill rig that never need to be refilled with any gas as it will just pull air in from atmosphere."

Why bother replying to my post when I'm only talking in the context that was dictated by the thread starter? I have no problem with running a HPA bottle on my marker and refilling between rounds.. But if you have higher demands, they can only be met by increasing the size of your tank, or by trying to compress the air via battery powered compressor and a reserve. Of these 2 options, I opted for the increase of size of HPA tank, It would cost less, would eliminate the noise issues, and would weigh less. TO say nothing about recharging batteries..

That is my .02

[pillage]

Browning sold a hybrid battery powered air rifle. It had a battery powered gear box on a standard springer air rifle. The same thing could be accomplished on a paintgun, but I am sure it would A; not be fast, and B: love batteries.
Here is a link to one that sold on gunbroker.http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=137573687

[Coralis]

On a side note a hand powered air pump might be something interesting for (similar to a pellet gun) as a pump gun, at least as having something different than the standard nelson/crossman pump gun.

[athomas]

I wonder how many pumps it would take to shoot a paintball. It would take more air to shoot a paintball than a pellet.

[Tym]

Yeah, lol. It would be like 2 or 3 BPM (balls per minute)

I still think a 10# tank is the best Idea..

Or we could test out a vinegar and baking soda compressor