A quantum theory of light: the Double Slit experiment explained.

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  • Pyrate Jim
    Shi Tamajutsu Ka
    • May 2002
    • 1052

    #46
    Bentovs' Pedulum (or metronome) does fail, but not for the reason you seem to think.
    The pendulum is merely an analog for the behavior of a single particle, it does not describe an actual pendulum. As an analog, it is merely "similar to" - not "equal to", otherwise it would be an isomorphism.
    You are correct that aggregates interfere with themselves internally, a single particle cannot be predictable yet a group of particles combined are subject to statistical behavior. All we ever experience of a real pendulum is the surface "average" of all it's individual particles together. If that statistical average is actually collapsing the wave function of each particle entangled within that object on it's own without an observer, then it contradicts the Copenhagen interpretation which insists that wave functions collapse only at the moment of measurement. This is why squirells laugh. (but I could be wrong)

    As far as how measurements are made, do you want a photo or a movie?
    Photo/Movie
    Position/Momentum
    Particle/Wave
    In simple experiments, cloud chambers can be fun to watch.

    Oh, and the failure of Bentovs' pendulum is the fact that at that "no-second" of time between going one direction and the other where he claims it "balloons out" does not take into account that only at that moment is when the pendulum can change direction and that rotation is a form of motion.
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    • Pyrate Jim
      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
      • May 2002
      • 1052

      #47
      I'm putting the ball on the tee here for ya...Somebody must be capable of pulling at least two inconsistancies out of that. Three, if you include blatant lies.
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      • Pyrate Jim
        Shi Tamajutsu Ka
        • May 2002
        • 1052

        #48
        I tend to notice things.
        Lately I've been paying attention to this thread and I've noticed that 48 hours after I make a post, the number of views when I mention squirells is higher than the number of views when I don't.
        Odd.

        Of course, the squirells are becoming narcissistic about it.
        They are also in hysterics over the fact that nobody pointed out that my last post directly contradicts Einstiens' special theory of relativity & the photoelectric effect.
        (and other things like amplification by stimulated emissions)
        Seriously, a single acronym is all that's needed to show that Photons are capable of carrying Energy, and if Energy is equivalent to Mass....

        Well, I guess "Deep Blue" is a misnomer and it's a pretty shallow pond after all.
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        • bjjb99
          Registered User
          • Dec 2001
          • 318

          #49
          Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
          Well, I guess "Deep Blue" is a misnomer and it's a pretty shallow pond after all.

          Much of the water ran out back in the early to mid 2000s. Back then, there were some quite interesting discussions about fluid flow around paintballs and how vortex shedding could affect accuracy.

          BJJB

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          • Mime
            the spec ops Eskimo.
            • Jul 2008
            • 36

            #50
            Dude.... Light has a duality because it acts as both particle and wave.

            WE GOT THIS.

            Put your grade 11 physics book down and listen to what the teacher is saying.

            PS just because newton REALLY wanted to prove light was a particle doesn't mean he was true
            sadly despite newton being what I would call the worlds most intelligent man, alot of other scientists at the time who were on the right track to our modern understanding of light and physics were ignored because "all hail newton" mentality

            anyways, ENJOY men!

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            • Pyrate Jim
              Shi Tamajutsu Ka
              • May 2002
              • 1052

              #51
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              • hill160881
                fire power my friends

                • Jun 2008
                • 1156

                #52
                If a 12 year old can debunk Einstein you would think we could all get it.
                Fire power my friends.

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                • hill160881
                  fire power my friends

                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1156

                  #53
                  Every really smart person in the world must feel a bit gut bunched right now.

                  And they are hoping he does not review there work.
                  Fire power my friends.

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                  • Pyrate Jim
                    Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                    • May 2002
                    • 1052

                    #54
                    Originally posted by hill160881
                    Every really smart person in the world must feel a bit gut bunched right now.

                    And they are hoping he does not review there work.
                    Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would welcome a new viewpoint. Only those invested in preserving the status quo would hope to avoid scrutiny.
                    While young Jacob demonstrates a remarkable talent for understanding the language of mathematics, he is still a poster child for autism ~ The link for charity donations is given at the end of the video:


                    Y'know, a mere 30 years ago "Autism" was not even a word. Before the 1970's, Jacob would have been classified as an "idiot savant" and probably given electroshock therapy.
                    (and don't tell me "No, they didn't do that")

                    What got to me in that video was the writing backwards thing. I've done that myself since my pre-teens, but I'm left-handed and just thought it natural to drag the pencil instead of push it. My writing backwards is still first letter first and continuing on from right to left. Even now I can sign my name with both hands simultaneously, right-hand forward & left-hand backwards.
                    In the video, however, Jacob is writing the entire sentence backwards (from last letter first to first letter last & writing it from left-to-right). Which is commonly called dyslexia.

                    The squirells are laughing because at minute 9:35 Jacob uses the symbol for infinity in his equation to prove something finite.
                    They claim that to be an indication of a false axiom along the lines of Zenos' Paradox, which can be proven mathematically, but fails in practical application. You can mathematically "Prove" a singularity, even renormalise an equation to eliminate it. But that does not mean the singularity was actually there to begin with.
                    An artifact of mathematics is subject to the axioms on which it is constructed
                    If the axioms are false, then so are the conclusions and the artifacts.

                    Much of the so-called "dualities" like the wave/particle paradox are simply errors in the axioms used, like singularities can either exist or not exist, but not exist just "sometimes".
                    If one is true, then all are true. If one single infinity exists, then all infinities must exist and therefore the Universe is infinite.
                    If there was a "Big Bang", or a beginning to the Universe, that would make it a finite object and unable to contain anything infinite in scope, therefore the entire concept of "infinity" is null & void within the constraints of a created Universe.

                    Eventually some 12 year old kid will tell us we were all wrong...shouting STFU! the whole time.

                    <edit to add>
                    Imagine that kid being born in the 1300's. How many similar intellects have been lost through the ages, lacking only media coverage?
                    Last edited by Pyrate Jim; 04-04-2011, 06:16 PM.
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                    • hill160881
                      fire power my friends

                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1156

                      #55
                      I still think by the time he is in his 20s he mite be one of the top math geeks in the world.
                      Fire power my friends.

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                      • Pyrate Jim
                        Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                        • May 2002
                        • 1052

                        #56
                        Originally posted by hill160881
                        I still think by the time he is in his 20s he mite be one of the top math geeks in the world.
                        Good luck to him, and I hope He's not another William Sidis.
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                        • Pyrate Jim
                          Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                          • May 2002
                          • 1052

                          #57
                          There is a dead squirell outside.
                          I heard a racket out there shortly after I found this website:


                          I can only assume the the little fuzzball was peeking in the window while it was on the moniter and actually laughed himself to death.
                          Or he may have just committed suicide after seeing that. (can't blame him, I was tempted myself...)

                          Would that be squirellicide?
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                          • biggy238
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 29

                            #58
                            not the place for questions
                            Last edited by biggy238; 04-20-2011, 02:21 PM. Reason: retracted

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