Fluid Dynamics... Your input?

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  • FatMan
    Fat Wang
    • Feb 2002
    • 926

    #31
    do you mean ...

    Do you mean recoil. movement of the gun due to the movement of internal components?

    FatMan

    Dirty old men need love too!

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    • JRSJKD
      Registered User
      • Jan 2001
      • 104

      #32
      ........

      So if I understand your argument correctly, all pump guns shooting at the same fps as a semi would have better range?!?!?!? I could bench mount it and chamber a paintball, close the bolt. Now when I fire the is ZERO movement except for the blast of air hitting the ball(well the hammer has to strike the power tube), but as far as the paintball is concerned, there are no forces acting on it aside from the air escaping down the barrel. A pump gin simply has no more range than a semi when both shooting at the same fps.

      To be absolutely honest, when I moved from playing with my bushamster to my first mag in 1990, I noticed my accuracy go up. There is a lot of movement when auto triggering a pump at 4-6 balls a sec

      Junior

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      • FatMan
        Fat Wang
        • Feb 2002
        • 926

        #33
        No, I don't think that's what he said

        JRSJKD,

        He didn't day they'd have better range, he said they are capable of shooting farther more accuarately. I think what he means is a player can shoot at long range with more accuracy, because less recoil means it easier to hold the gun on target.

        At least that's what I think he means - thus my question to clarify if he was speaking of recoil.

        Thus a marker with less recoil might have the illusion of better range or better accuracy. A pump would have a rather large amount of "recoil" if you count the action of pumping to recock the hammer.

        This says nothing about range or velocity of a bench mounted marker.

        FatMan

        Dirty old men need love too!

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        • JRSJKD
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 104

          #34
          I see now...

          Yeah I see now....thankx!

          Whenever I hear the words farther more accurately together I cringe and see red

          Now if it was stated as "I can shoot more accurately because the gun has less recoil", I'd have an easier time with it. Where the recoil is inherent in the particular design of any gun, I think it's important to separate that side of the argument from the whole distance accuracy thing since a large part of the recoil/accuracy debate will be subject to a certain components outside of the design, namely the person shooting it. What one person might not deal as well eith may not bother another. Way too subjective.

          My .02 anyway

          Junior

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          • PBchopR
            Registered User
            • Sep 2001
            • 17

            #35
            Thanks Fatman

            You're right, what I meant is that less recoil/impulse movement adds to the perception that a gun can shoot further. It really can be seen when transitioning from a gun with lots of recoil to one that has very little. A pump gun has little recoil, but the action of pumping it would probably reduce percieved accuracy. As far as I can tell, consistancy and low recoil is the mother of accuracy..

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            • FreshmanBob

              #36
              pumps tend to be very accurate, but from experiance i know each time you recock the gun it messes your aim up so you have to basically start over again.

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              • JRSJKD
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 104

                #37
                pbchopr.......couldn't agree more consistency, consistency, CONSISTENCY!

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