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  • Skittle
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    • May 2002
    • 305

    #1

    Golf balls?

    Ok, well I heard that the dimples in golf balls reduce turbulance. So what if someone could make paintballs like that? WOuld that like make them super accurate as long as u could evenly place dimples and keep the painball in a perfect circle shape? Like a mini golf ball...I mean, if it could work it would be the most awesome thing because they could be the most accurate paint. Do you guys think this is possible?


    Hey, I better not see these on the shelf in like 2 years and still be as broke as i am now.
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  • BlackVCG
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    • Oct 2000
    • 4956

    #2
    It doesn't work with paintballs. In order to create the turbulent boundary layer, the object must be spinning at a high RPM. Paintballs don't see much spin, so it's not beneficial.

    It can be explained by the Magnus Effect. There's a region of turbulence downstream from the ball. When the ball is spinning, it becomes asymmetric. Basically the area behind the ball experiences greater pressure and therefore a force is applied to the ball. There's a bit more to it dealing with Bernoulli's Principle, but that's the general idea.
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    • Skittle
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      • May 2002
      • 305

      #3
      well, lets say u use the paint in something like a flatline barrel where the whole purpouse of the barrel is to create a spin, would this make a diffrence? (the flatline)
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      • Mav D MagMan
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        • Dec 2001
        • 669

        #4
        But what would be the cost - performance relation to manufacture such paintballs? It really doesn't seem to me that they would be very cost effective.

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        • Skittle
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          • May 2002
          • 305

          #5
          well, you see i dont think i can be that hard to make, but there could be potential to make alot of money. if u can prove the paint is awesome, even people with tippmanns and flatline cockers would love the paint and it would go like hot cakes, if it worked. even if it was a fad, you can make lots of money in the month or 2 it sells.
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          • BlackVCG
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            • Oct 2000
            • 4956

            #6
            Right once I started typing my reply, I thought - I wonder how a dimpled paintball would shoot out of a Flatline barrel. AGD has made nylon paintballs with dimples drilled in them to do testing with and saw no benefits in a regular setup. It would be interesting to see how it behaves out of a Flatline. I'm thinking that the air blast might have an effect on it and not let it work the same as with a golf ball.
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            • Skittle
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              • May 2002
              • 305

              #7
              I think it would be really intresting to see how it did perform w/ a flatline, espically a flatline cocker.... and even though the chances are it wouldnt be a signifigant positive change there are chances it would be awesome...
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              • Mav D MagMan
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                • Dec 2001
                • 669

                #8
                But who's going to pay the costs to produce it? Nobody wants to buy 100 + dollar paint if they can get something else. Even with the benefits.

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                • Skittle
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                  • May 2002
                  • 305

                  #9
                  well the paint dosent nessicarily have to be 100+ bucks, all u need is the right mold (im guessing) and then it could work. and if ti did work, like i previously said fads make tons of money, remember giga pets? little 5$ production cost peices of junk that sold for 30 bucks? if u can do something like that it would all be worth it
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                  • Mav D MagMan
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                    • Dec 2001
                    • 669

                    #10
                    Are you familiar with how paintballs are made? If so I shall not go into detail.

                    But after they are sealed they are swollen above their normals size and left to cool and shrink down. During this time they would lose any tiny features put into them by a special mold.

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                    • Skittle
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                      • May 2002
                      • 305

                      #11
                      well how about the rps advantage shell? how is it so hard like that? mabye if u can make the paintball like that it could have potential
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                      • Mav D MagMan
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                        • Dec 2001
                        • 669

                        #12
                        I don't get your reference towards how hard Advantage is? Please explain.

                        But that paintball was derived from a new process. The likes of which I'm not sure but the design does have it's positive side but also a negative side as well.

                        What bothers me about the idea is the probability that the dimples will never be consistant enough to make a quality paint worth buying.

                        How paintballs are made The link to it's on the picture of the slamballs.
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                        • Skittle
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                          • May 2002
                          • 305

                          #13
                          i meant that if u use the same process that mabye it would be possible to make paintballs like than and make the dimples consistant. because the advantage shess is made diffrently
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                          • P8ntballerAK
                            a.k.a. KOLD-wang
                            • May 2002
                            • 221

                            #14
                            OK, I went over this one with one of my friends who is a physics major. First of all a golf ball does not have to have a spin to launch like it does, hit one with a baseball bat and see. Second, a paintball with dimples would cause gaps between the barrel and the paintball which would let the air flow past the paintball and cause effeciency drop and would cause turbulance. And third, have you ever wondered why paintball are round instead of a bulletshape or anyother more aerodynamic shape? I will tell you why. If you have a sphere and apply pressure to one side the sphere will expand at all point equally untill resistans(the barrel) stops the side from expanding further. this keeps the pressure on a paintball equalized as much as possible. if you change the shape of the sphere lets say make it fimpled or make it like a bullet, you change the structural integrity of the entire object. if you try putting that much pressure on a bullet shaped object with the same size shell as on a paintball, it would explode. you could give it a thicker shell but that starts becoming more painful and dangerous. If put many dimples in a ball it will lose strength on the entire object so putting pressure on it would push the dimples out and then the ball would explode.

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                            • BlackVCG
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                              • Oct 2000
                              • 4956

                              #15
                              Actually the more determining factor as to why paintballs are round is because round provides the easiest shape to load in the gun. With all other shapes, you'd need a gravity fed stacked column or some kind of pressure fed magazine. Much easier to load round objects than bullet shaped or anything else for that matter.
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