Rt in an autococker?

[FutureMagOwner]

i was wondering if it is possible to have the reactive trigger type system on an autococker? it seemed like it would be possible but i wouldnt know how that would work. i would think it would be possible with left over gases and then a little bit extra

also i had an idea about how to have almost no fuel usage on trains and other track vehicles(possibly cars too) and was wondering if that would be a good deep blue discussion

[FreshmanBob]

Have any of you have heard of Palmer Pursuit shops Blazer (which i like a heeellluva lot better than most cockers)? It works just like a cocker but MUCH more compact, with all palmer pheumatics and the like in the grip frame (no need for upgrades too) and has like a 2 inch long bolt.

Annnnywho, Craig Palmer (Glenns son) made one with an RT trigger, called The Tempest. Only a few palmerites know how it was done (in addition to palmers) and they won't tell. This is because it'd make the sport pretty dangerous if everyone was shooting Tempest's at 18+ bps.
Of course, the guns for sale, i think around $50,000 if you want to buy it..

It's suppose to have an extremely reactive trigger and shoot VERY fast. Judging from the sound of a video i used to have of it, close to the e mag at 20 bps but no paint (pre-halo an warp), possibly more, but i can't tell.

So it has been done, and if i was done to a blazer, it probably could be done to a cocker.

if you want more on palmers try
www.palmer-pursuit.com

anyway, im done

[Wat]

It was done to a cocker, Boston Paintball made the reflex cocker that was insanely fast back in 1998. Then shortly after NPPL banned reactive triggers and turbo modes and it kind of dissappeared. Reflex rocked in reactive mode, but the trigger was clumsy when you disabled it.

Something they should try again was to avoid chops, they milled slots in the back block and the bolt pin was secured by springs. If the bolt encountered resistance, the block would just move forward with the bolt compressing against the springs and not moving.

You could stick your finger down the breech and let it rip without meaningful pain.

[Kaiser Bob]

I would think the spring in the bolt system would cause timing issues as the spring would compress on each thrust.

Whats the deal with the train idea?

[FreshmanBob]

woops

well, i found the video of the blazer
sounds more like 15 bps (little more than the angel)
and my mistake, it was done with what looks like a warp feed

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/animation/tempest.mpg

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Kaiser Bob
I would think the spring in the bolt system would cause timing issues as the spring would compress on each thrust.

Whats the deal with the train idea?

MagLev is already being developed and requires no direct fossil fuels. Of course you need to generate the electricity somewhere...

[FutureMagOwner]

well i know how to generate that power

you stick a big battery and have it hooked up to one solar panal that is attached to the top of one car and the rest all have windmills. besically the battery powers the train and to get the beginning movement the solar panal charges the battery, then the train as it gets moving makes the wind mills spin because of the extra artifical wind created by the train moving. basically the train powers its self with out any fuels necessary

[FreshmanBob]

um yea thats kind of impossible
whatever you use for turning the wind into electricity create a force for the train to push against, which means more energy needed to move the train

like if you used a 45 watt lightbulb and a solar panel to "make" electricity

if it was possible, we'd all be riding that kina train

[magmonkey]

I have a boston reflex kit
it is a really interesting design with ALOT of moving parts

[FutureMagOwner]

part of what you said confused me

what im saying is is that conversion of wind power to usable power isnt that great and the concept of having something push it(which isnt an outside force besides the wind) isnt that hard because like when your driving in a car and you stick your hand out the window thats an artifical wind(because it isnt natural because its only occuring at the car) that pushes the windmills which creates the power which is transfered to the battery which powers the train

[Rick927]

You would be better off going with an advanced fuel cell to generate your electric power instead of solar, but the only people that have access to stuff like that are the NASA guys and they don't like to share. Plus it is a little expensive for mass transit. If you want to stick to your wind mill idea turning generators, you would need one on every car to charge the bank of batteries that is already on the train engine...they are electric with diesel turbine engines to drive the generators. Then you would have to cover them with a scoop or cowling, then you would have to change the hieght of every tunnel in North America, Nope, I dont think so....But a cool idea.

[Top Secret]

Originally posted by FreshmanBob
well, i found the video of the blazer
sounds more like 15 bps (little more than the angel)
and my mistake, it was done with what looks like a warp feed
http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/animation/tempest.mpg

Holy Crap! I want a Tempest! That's an incredible video. Really pushes the limit for a mechanical gun.

[FutureMagOwner]

yeah i know that the problem is mass transit cars and such all generate large amounts of pollution and with my approach you dont pay jack for gas you never have to stop somewhere to get gas etc

[Aranarth]

Freshmen Bob told you already. Law of Conservation of Energy. You place fans on top of the train, they create more drag, drawing more power from the cells of the batteries as the train runs. Might charge the battery a bit, but you still discharge it.
And how old is that clip? Looks just like a warpfeed wheel showing under the grip. . .
-AranarthX

[Rick927]

I think the issue of drag vs power draw would not cause a major problem, I mean... it's a freak'n train! Not the most aerodynamic thing in the world. It's mass and momentum would overcome the drag once you got going, plus you could gear down the propellers so your generators spin 10x as fast which would compensate for the power draw of the extra drag. I'm sure some grad student somewhwere has already figured out how to do it, and a gas company bought the idea from him...locked it away...and it was never seen again.