Conical Paint"balls"?

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  • Koosh
    I'm No Longer On Fire
    • Mar 2002
    • 1710

    #1

    Conical Paint"balls"?

    Just wondering... Everyone gripes that the round projectile of a paintball makes a lousy aerodynamic profile. Would a conical paintball work at all? or would it just tumble end over end after it left the barrel?

    (Yes I know it will never happen with the loaders the way they are, and the amount of funds it would take to change over EVERY gun/loader/paintball production facility, but I just want to know if it would work...)
    Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

    Originally said by Boggerman When I got married I thought it would go down too... The insurance, not the wife.

    FRUITCAT!!
  • SlartyBartFast
    The Flying Scotsman
    • Jun 2002
    • 2940

    #2
    Look and the Non-Leathal weapon system at www.fnhusa.com

    Developped with AGD, your question has been answered.
    Last edited by SlartyBartFast; 02-20-2003, 02:05 PM.

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    • pblunchbox
      G.I.R. (its advanced!)
      • Mar 2002
      • 64

      #3
      I wonder....

      I wonder if those are tourney legal... imagine playing back with one of those bad boys.
      FLAT trajectory, and awesome range.
      They even shoot at 300fps or under.
      *GASP* i need.
      Lbx
      oh hey its 3:15 time for cake and sodomy! (name that comic strip if you can!)

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      • Blennidae
        an epileptic hummingbird
        • Nov 2001
        • 1920

        #4
        Does anyone remember ads in paintball mags a long time ago for "sniperballs". They had 4 fins on the back and you had to load them one at a time in the barrel. Looked kinda like a blimp in the ads.

        Never saw any in real life, but remember the ads.

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        • MINIMAG4LIFE
          Registered User
          • Nov 2002
          • 51

          #5
          super glue a paintball to the top of a 20 gauge shot gun wad. works pretty good and shotgun wads are cheap

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          • MINIMAG4LIFE
            Registered User
            • Nov 2002
            • 51

            #6
            20

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            • Coaster
              Registered User
              • Apr 2002
              • 421

              #7
              what is the maximum weight of a paintball?

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              • Top Secret
                IPR's E-Maggot
                • Jun 2001
                • 601

                #8
                Originally posted by MINIMAG4LIFE
                super glue a paintball to the top of a 20 gauge shot gun wad. works pretty good and shotgun wads are cheap
                I think we need break-action double barrel paintball guns for those.
                O FLAGPULL O

                Cincinnati All-Stars

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                • bjjb99
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 318

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Coaster
                  what is the maximum weight of a paintball?
                  I don't know if there is a "maximum allowable weight" for a paintball. Theoretically someone could fill a paintball with a very dense liquid (mercury, anyone?) and end up with something really heavy.

                  In practice, the average mass of a paintball is around 3 grams, or about one tenth of one ounce. You get about 160 paintballs to the pound (weight, not sterling *g*).

                  BJJB

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                  • flanders
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 142

                    #10
                    a non spherical will nerv work with a mass load system such as a hopper

                    reasons-
                    1) the ball will never drop the same way every time, yeilding an off pointing cone which yeilds brakes

                    2) bolt discharge is not at a centrat point causing off motion

                    3) conictle bullets won't spin left to right or vise versy they will spin front to back or vise versa

                    Crusher of ideas and spirits

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                    • Coaster
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 421

                      #11
                      hmm... there must be a max weight, otherwise this would be legal : http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/ll_303.htm

                      The added weight and the ability to effictively rifle it, which would improve accuracy, would be awesome.
                      Last edited by Coaster; 02-26-2003, 11:17 PM.

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                      • bjjb99
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 318

                        #12
                        I know of no manufacturing regulation limiting the mass of a paintball. Perhaps the goggle/mask manufacturers use an implied limit during testing ("this mask will withstand impacts from 4 gram projectiles at 300 fps", for example, knowing full well that paintballs have less mass than 4 grams).

                        Redkey has measured the masses of various brands of paintballs and has provided a table of his results at the following link:



                        As you can see, the average paintball is around 3.0 to 3.1 grams in mass.

                        The only true limit is the density of the fill and the volume of the paintball. In theory I suppose one could fire a paintball shell filled with solid osmium, but I doubt anyone would like to be struck by a 61 gram (2.1 ounce) projectile moving at paintball velocities.

                        BJJB

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                        • MasterYoda
                          Bling Bling
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 49

                          #13
                          A sphere is actually one of the lower drag aerodynamic surfaces. The majority of drag on the sphere is created by the area of defficient momentum created after the flow separates from the surface. This can be corrected by stretching the rear of the sphere (streamlining), which delays the separation of flow. The result is a tear drop shape. One has to be careful because the longer you stretch the body of the projectile, the more skin friction the projectile will experience in flight. As with a conical design, this design would require some kind of device to make it fly true, such as fins.

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                          • halB
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 953

                            #14
                            it would work, but it would have to be spun like a bullet to cancel out inequalities on the surface. and since it has a liquid core that would = suck

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                            • pbpancho
                              International Sales
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 48

                              #15
                              my team captain had a whole bunch of little fins you superglued on to balls, they were made out of gelatin too, he said he got them a long time ago, but they were very cool, we breechloaded them and they were extremely accurate.

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