Possible warp setup?

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  • charlie
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7

    #16
    Big'n Slo

    I love the idea. Actually I had a similar one after looking at the warp and seeing some flaws but great potential.

    Instead of the hopper being sort of triangular and underneath the barrel, mine is cylindrical (not totally, looks slightly smaller from head on from the back to decrease profile). The hopper section goes right in front of the battery on an E/X-MAG, with just enough room between the battery and the hopper to comfortably have your hand in there for using the battery as a forgrip. Vertically, the hopper start 3/4" below where the bottom of the gun is. The hopper has room for 180-200 balls, which is normal, and at the bottome would either have an agitator or a belt system like Halo B.

    The way I first envisioned it, there would be a circular drive like that on the warp feed directly below the hopper and "laying down", not upright like on your model or the regualr warp feed. On the opposite side of the warp drive to where the hopper empties into it, there would be an exit to go into the feed tube and a rammer to ram the balls up into it.

    Sorry I cant figure out how to attatch an image.

    Then I realized that there really wasnt a reason to have the whole warp drive setup, you could just have to rammer ram balls up from directly under the hopper.

    The problem with the regular warp is that, say you have a warp right, you cant fire out the right side for extended periods because you are too big a target. The prob with your design is that it will be too front-heavy and because of the design of the hopper, if you have the gun in even the slightest downward angle you will never get any balls to feed.

    With mine, you get the advantages of a warp in that since the hopper is so vertical you can lean it out a bunker, only exposing very little gun, and to do this you dont even have to lean it much. Also, you will have more than 8 balls ready to fire. If you are holding the gun at a 20* angle, all you probably need to get most of the gun behind cover, you will pobably be able to shoot out all but the last 8-15 balls before the angle is too much to feed.

    The other beauty is that with the placement of the hopper,almost any hits that hit it will have hit your gun, tank, arm, or body any way so even if you're exposing the whole gun setup without angling it from behind a bunker you still have less a target zone than a normal hopper-on-top setup.

    What do you guys think? Do you understand what I'm describing?
    Last edited by charlie; 04-23-2003, 04:38 PM.

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    • AutomagBoy
      Property of US MarineCorps
      • Feb 2003
      • 283

      #17
      you have to host pics, you cant link them off your comp.

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      • Big'n slo
        Sponsored by...my paycheck
        • Mar 2003
        • 1909

        #18
        charlie

        I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "rammer"? Would this push a line of balls or one at a time, and how fast would it reset?

        As for my design, I realize that if the gun were pointed down it would not feed correctly, I'm working around that. Take a look at my pics again, I think our hopper designs are about the same except for the vertical warp.
        I like the warp because of the fact that it can run and be feed continuously without the need to reset.

        I just picked up a used warp so I'll be posting some picks of a mock up I'm working on. I'm just focusing on the hopper/feed setup first, then I'll worry about keeping the warp fed at certain angles.

        Keep the ideas coming.

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        • charlie
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 7

          #19
          by rammer i just mean the mechanism that pushed the balls into the feed tube. It would have to be able to keep up with the hopper mechanism, and if that was based on the Halo B then the "rammer" would have to be able to do 22bps.

          I'll try to portray it with words:

          take your regular VL200 hopper, make it just a regualar cylinder instead of a banana, turn it 90* so that its up and down, move the cover to the top, stretch it out so its a little longer, now "compress" on 2 sides so that its a cylinder of an elipse, not a full circle btu jsut a little. Now place it with the top facing up right in front of the battery on an E/X-MAG. Put either a eggolution2 or Halo B feeding mechanism at the bottom. Make that empty into the warp drive which i envisioned to be "on its back" with the clear side facing up in order to minimize profile from any direction except down and up. I dont think that the warp would be able to feed while "on its back" any more so I thought that the only other way to force-feed balls up the tube into the breech would be with some sort of hammer mechanism similar to that found in the Halo B to keep pressure on the balls in the feed neck so that they will quickly load into the breech. This would have to be stronger, though, in order to supports the weight of the 20+ balls in the feed tube,

          Its pretty complex and goes from using parts stolen from loaders and the warp to pretty much all proprietary pieces.

          I like your idea because it much more simple and thus will probably work, although theres still the problem about tilting forward.

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          • Spaceman613
            Guinness taste tester
            • Jan 2002
            • 550

            #20
            Good idea.... Already patented by Tom and others :)

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            • Big'n slo
              Sponsored by...my paycheck
              • Mar 2003
              • 1909

              #21
              Figured they'd have a jump on me

              Oooo! Its even a inverted vertical feed, wait, is that possible

              Ah well, still gonna play with my idea's, gives me a reason to tear things apart.

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              • Newbie215
                Play everquest?if so pm me
                • Feb 2003
                • 371

                #22
                Hey big in slow, Just because its patented dosent mean you gotta stop. Just change one thing or another make the trap door all you gotta do is put a hole in the bottom of your rail and body. and while your at it put a lever so balls can feed to quickly

                ----------------------------------------------
                \\\bolt\\\\|||||||||valve||||||
                ------------- -------------body------------
                _____________----\===_____________Body rail______
                the ---- on body rail is the lever its self the \ is the attachment and the === is a spring that preety much covers the trap door

                the trap door could aslo be attached to the sear some how if you really wanted to get advanved
                Someone once asked me if I felt war was the answer.... For a moment I wondered then I replied "No War is not the answer, War is the question and the answer is Yes."

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