how about one more stupid idea this week? well because of popular demand...

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  • bokraham
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 272

    #1

    how about one more stupid idea this week? well because of popular demand...

    Well I have another stupid idea...boy am I chalked full of them. The idea is to have a weigher, or a miniscale where the ball drops in. when the ball puts it's weight on the scale it will let the bolt fire. It is pretty much an alternitive for the eye that can sense any kind of paint.
    that is such a chipmunk mentality
  • QUINCYMASSGUY
    Registered User
    • Dec 2002
    • 914

    #2
    Pretty much exactly what Sensi is, and it's kind of been proven to be inferior to eyes
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    • ezrunner
      Random Member
      • Feb 2002
      • 606

      #3
      sensi

      Sensi uses a vibration sensor and that is why it must be calibrated.

      The ball hitting the sensi/cops rod produces a certain signal, when you calibrate it, the gun sees that as being a ball. The sensor also pics up the gun firing, you running, etc. The calibration causes the gun to filter out this other "noise".

      You are correct, this is how sensi works, the ball hits the rod and transfers energy to a sensor that reports to the board.

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      • kscullin
        the REAL Baron Bad Beaver
        • Mar 2004
        • 91

        #4
        Actually I have though about a very lightweight momentary microswitch at the bottom of the chamber for this very idea. The ball depresses the switch which allows the marker to fire. The initial problem with this idea is dirt or water in the switch. Under controlled conditions, this would probably work fine, but under real life conditions I see it as too prone to failure.

        IMO, the eye idea is the most reliable, other than perhaps a magnet moved by the ball which actuates a hall effect sensor. This would have to be mounted in an extremely stable fashion to keep it from moving too far to be reliable.
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        • phyregod
          Master Fabricator
          • Oct 2003
          • 230

          #5
          Buy a Lvl 10... Tune it... forget about it.

          Just kidding, continue.

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          • rudy6732
            Matrix Owner
            • Mar 2003
            • 242

            #6
            yea i think sensi is whats used in the angel speeds, and its proved to have problems; especialls with halo's because they put a lot of pressure on the ballstack (hehe that sounds like ballsack :) )
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            • Slimm Jimm
              _ave the planet
              • Jul 2003
              • 175

              #7
              Could you maybe take 2 tiny strips of metal and place it in the side similar to a ball detent. And when a ball drops down, it would push those two strips together to complete the circuit and allow the marker to shoot.
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              • rudy6732
                Matrix Owner
                • Mar 2003
                • 242

                #8
                that a kinda good idea, i dont know how it would be done though. Get it patented before SP reads this!
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                • Sir_Brass
                  I love mechs!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 736

                  #9
                  Or why not use a pressure sensor located at the bottom of the breech, so that only when a ball is sitting on top of it will there be force ON the sensor, and only when the sensor registers contact is the gun allowed to fire.
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                  • Slimm Jimm
                    _ave the planet
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 175

                    #10
                    I would place a pressure sensor in the side so that that would be consistent(sp?) pressure from shot to shot and angle would not be as much of a factor in whether or not the pressure would be relived from the switch.

                    Patent: A Slimm Jimm patent has been placed on this and may be used by anyone other than SP.

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                    • Fixion
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 815

                      #11
                      OR you could just use a simple breakbeam eye.....
                      .

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                      • Slimm Jimm
                        _ave the planet
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 175

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fixion
                        OR you could just use a simple breakbeam eye.....
                        Hey, no quashing attempts at originality.
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                        • Bloencustoms
                          Registered User
                          • May 2003
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Why not try a sonar or radar sensor? I know there are some very small radar sensors (relatively, but still large for a paintball marker) that are used in car security. Sonar sensors are used as backup alerts in cars to let you know how close you are to a car behind you when parking. It seems that these would be less affected by a dirty breech since they don't rely on optics to work.

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                          • Aleis
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 116

                            #14
                            shot down

                            one problem that i see with the switch and double plates, that a ball pushes against,
                            I forsee bad things happening when you dry fire and there no ball to push teh levers, bars out of the bolts way
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                            • undescriptive
                              Battered and Bruised
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 279

                              #15
                              hi there..
                              just my two penneth worth....

                              if the switch was mounted in the ball detent thingy, then there would always be a "constant" pressure on it (enough to trip a very sloppy microswitch or similar, allowing the marker to fire. And the problem with dry firing? wouldn't an eye (if it is turned on) stop a marker from dry firing if there was no ball in the breach? so you would just simply turn the micro-switch sensor off (or directly short the switch so it is always on.

                              Failing that, rather than using piddly little IR beams, use a laser and a lightpipe!

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