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  • Thordic
    AFTICA
    • May 2001
    • 5986

    #16
    At least in NJ, it depends if you are exempt or not.

    Non-Exempt employees are not eligible for a bonus but they are eligible for overtime. They are generally hourly but can be salaried.

    Exempt employees are not eligible for overtime compensation but are eligible for a bonus.

    This is the way its been at all the companies I've worked at as well as those of people I know.

    Personally I am Non-Exempt Salaried. I get paid the same amount every week automatically, regardless of what my timesheet says. I'm expected to work a minimum of 37.5 hours a week for that wage, anything less and I'd get in trouble. 37.6 - 40 hours and I get paid "extra" time which is just pay at my normal hourly rate. Anything over 40 hours and overtime kicks in at time and a half. The 37.5 hour work week is a little odd, granted, but the over 40-hour mandated overtime is the law here. If there are exceptions to that law I've never seen them.

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    • flyboy
      Registered User
      • Apr 2006
      • 191

      #17
      But on the flip side to that is, if you have to go to the doctor and leave early, they can't dock the lost time.

      Depending on your locale you may or may not be required to be salaried exempt. Some states have a Salaried non-exempt (from over time) and there may be federal guidelines as well. Many companies apply these laws incorrectly. Check then out. They should be available online.

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      • rkjunior303
        I need this more than you
        • May 2003
        • 4029

        #18
        I'm the same Brian.. We're called Salary Plus.... I am an exempt employee but if I DO work overtime that is agreed upon, say for a national project like the DNC/Nascar/etc, I am eligible to obtain overtime at half rate - which sucks but at least it's something.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #19
          :P Hmm... I work when work is needed and take pay as pay is needed Works well.
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • SCpoloRicker
            HA HA I'm custom!!1
            • Jan 2004
            • 4375

            #20
            We're up the creek if work requires more than 40hrs, and that's been consistent at every agency I've heard of out here.
            God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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            • FiXeL
              Registered Gun-Whore
              • May 2006
              • 819

              #21
              It all depends on job availability and your specialisation, but i say screw the guy and start looking for other jobs with better terms. Maybe this sounds easier than it looks, i'm not familiar with the american job market. But i told my last boss to look for another CNC machine operator in januari, after 7 years of service. The look on his face was priceless.

              Now i have a 40hr a week job, no mental abuse, less overtime, better tools, better machinery, same salary payed over 4 weeks instead of a month, few months ago a 5% raise, i can drink coffee in the workshop, read a paper when the machine is running, nobody constantly on my butt.... Well you get the idea.... I switched jobs and i never regretted it for a moment.

              Ow, and i am allowed to do some small milling jobs for private use without problem, like ULE milling my tac-one rail

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              • steiner79
                Registered User
                • Jun 2006
                • 100

                #22
                Originally posted by FiXeL
                It all depends on job availability and your specialisation, but i say screw the guy and start looking for other jobs with better terms. Maybe this sounds easier than it looks, i'm not familiar with the american job market. But i told my last boss to look for another CNC machine operator in januari, after 7 years of service. The look on his face was priceless.

                Now i have a 40hr a week job, no mental abuse, less overtime, better tools, better machinery, same salary payed over 4 weeks instead of a month, few months ago a 5% raise, i can drink coffee in the workshop, read a paper when the machine is running, nobody constantly on my butt.... Well you get the idea.... I switched jobs and i never regretted it for a moment.

                Ow, and i am allowed to do some small milling jobs for private use without problem, like ULE milling my tac-one rail

                now that sounds like a good place to work

                now i should not grip to much since they do let me use the machinery wich is all manual but still works the point is i love my job but the boss sucks and its pointless to talk to him.
                the job market is not that great for a cad/engineer without a college education. by the way I design parts for hydroelectric dams if anyones wants to know.

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                • FiXeL
                  Registered Gun-Whore
                  • May 2006
                  • 819

                  #23
                  I don't have college, or even high school. I screwed all that up. But i've worked my way up with a little help, got some education for non-employed, went into the metal sector and started out as a welder... after that i got my last job at a buisness that made moulds and dies. (and working myself up from welder with some other skills to CNC milling) Now i work at a machine factory as a CNC machine operator. I mill, program and do anything that's needs to be done.

                  I don't have any good papers, but i have skill. That, and working expierence will go a long way. Most employers rather have someone that has expierence than some kid that just got out of school. My working career was lucky, seeing the way i messed up in the past. But staying where you are and unhappy with the working conditions is living a contious circle. If you are not happy with how things are going, you need to act to go further. I've wasted 7 years with a jerk for a boss, but i gained alot of expierence that landed me my current job. But i've moved on, for your sake you should do too...

                  One tip about new bosses: They always tend to make things look great, but usually they're not. I've almost switched jobs from hell to pure hell, good thing i got tipped off. If you can, get some background info on the company, it helps deciding if you want to work there. Don't expect too much from your new job, but if it's way better than what you're used to, it's a improvement.

                  Well, i hope this helps a bit... It might take some time/jobs before you settle in the good job, and usually there is always something to complain about. Don't be too picky about that, but also don't take no crap from your boss. If so, Be direct, and clear about what you want and what you don't want. (in a good fashion offcourse)
                  Last edited by AO Moderation Team; 07-24-2007, 09:44 AM. Reason: No swearing

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                  • SummaryJudgement
                    Selling stuff, good stuff.
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1944

                    #24
                    Find a btter/different job.........

                    That's what I finally did. I worked 50+ hours for three years at my last job. I'd say about a quarter of the year I was doing 70+ hours a week, plus weekends, plus HOLIDAYS.

                    We were often told we would get comp time or bonuses, but almost never did. I also never got a raise, not because of my job performance (cause I was usaulyy out performing others, but because the raises were going to people making less money to catch them up to our level). It started to bother me so much at the end that I needed to start taking blood pressure and hypertension medication

                    When I got my new job, I was at least happy that I didn't have to put up with the same old BS. I know my new job will get into crazy-time at one point, but at least it will be new BS............................

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                    • gimp
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 2368

                      #25
                      Originally posted by steiner79
                      I work as a mech drafter / mechanical engineer Ive been told to work 50 hrs a week and am only paid salary for 40. a loss of over 200.00 a week. the boss said we will get a bounus when the project is complete but I know that is not true he has never given out a bonus.
                      I am so mad and I cant do anything about it or can I
                      can anybody relate or have sugestions.

                      I have no college education (all self taught) and am supporting my wife and child Id love to go to collage for mechanical design but have no extra money to spare and the nearest collage is 2 1/2 hours away what should i do
                      I have to vent somewhere and here is where im gonna do it
                      I suggest you get the project done really fast so that you don't have to work 50+ hours a week anymore.

                      I'm an engineer, and I get paid hourly. A lot of people think that by getting a salary, it's going to be more money. If you work a lot of overtime, which I do, then hourly is the way to go. Time and a half, plus 10% night differential. Spend a month on mid shift, working 13 hour days 7 days a week and you'll be making bank. Course, you kind of give up a lot of free time.

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #26
                        Be cautious of the "grass is always greener" way of thinking. Companies normally hire in upsurges in business and/or profitability. Naturally these good times tend to trickle down and result in better times for everyone involved. However, they are often short lived and many find that the "dream job" they left there past job for is not all they thought it was a few months down the road.
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • wimag
                          BEZERKERS
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 1334

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                          *confused doggie pic*

                          Every salaried position I've ever held has a)required more than 40 hrs and b)not compensated a dime for "overtime" work.
                          sucks for you. I am salaried non exempt. Means i get OT pay baby !!
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                          • Thordic
                            AFTICA
                            • May 2001
                            • 5986

                            #28
                            Originally posted by wimag
                            sucks for you. I am salaried non exempt. Means i get OT pay baby !!
                            Its the way to go I don't work a ton of overtime but if I wanted to have no life during the week I could easily pick up an extra 10+ hours a week.

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                            • wimag
                              BEZERKERS
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 1334

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Thordic
                              Its the way to go I don't work a ton of overtime but if I wanted to have no life during the week I could easily pick up an extra 10+ hours a week.
                              yeah, same here. We work four tens and i have gotten so acclimated to three day weekends every week that my free time outweighs some extra change in my pocket.
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                              • bornl33t
                                hello lamewads
                                • Oct 2000
                                • 4463

                                #30
                                I work what I want up to 40 hours a week. MY place of employment pays my benefits and some other heathy incentives. This allows me to run my own buisness on the side and not have to worry about health inshurance or lack of work.

                                I'm almost as free as it comes...


                                But while we are talking about crappy bosses, I have one that was promoted and had 2 convictions for possession. One for intent to distribute and both within 16 months of his promotion. So yeah.....

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