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  • robnix
    email robnix@gmail
    • Jan 2006
    • 2094

    #16
    Originally posted by thecavemankevin
    Vista is known to have network issues like stated earlier. You can try a different wireless router like a D-link or netgear. I have several customers with the latest Linksys routers and vista and they just don't play nice together. At this point there is not much you can do other than tuff it out or try a different router.
    The T60p I use for work came with a Vista license. So we thought we'd test them out and see how Vista performed. Nice machine, 2Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, ATI Firegl Graphics, 7200RPM hard drive, no slouch at all. Vista was a pig on it, even the clean install I did felt sluggish. Took it home and it was painful getting it on my wireless with a Netgear router. I have XP running on it now, everything works great, it's a snappy performer, and my wireless works consistenly again.

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    • dave p
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 184

      #17
      vista is cool until you actually need to do some work, or have it work with hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff you already have.

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      • teufelhunden
        Registered Bamf
        • Jul 2003
        • 2691

        #18
        Originally posted by robnix
        If you're running Quickbooks and 'higher end tax/accounting' software, then someones most likely using the laptop for work, which makes it a business environment.
        Most likely, but not.

        Most major OEM's are now offering XP licenses and recovery CD's for customers that bought machines with Vista Preinstalled. There seemed to be this odd demand for them.
        Something to look into, I did not know that. Thanks.


        Sorry, it's you with the blinders, you're not listening to what anyone here is saying about VISTA. The REAL issue is with the poor implementation of the network stack in Vista. Wireless connectivity isn't the only existing issue. There's problems with large file transfers and DHCP requests as well.
        I never implied that Vista didn't have problems. It quite obviously does, which I admit quite readily in the title of this thread. I'm not here to defend Vista or sing its praises. I don't use it on either of my own PCs [which, as an aside, run XP Pro/Ubuntu], but the PCs in question have Vista and are probably staying that way.


        Then explain to your users that until MS fixes the network issues that are in Vista, their best option is to run XP so they can do the work they need to in a productive manner. Ask them what feature it is in Vista that makes it so needed, and why XP can't do the job. If you're the person they look to when they need help then you need to help them make informed decisions.
        I don't think they're very pro-Vista, but my mom at least thinks it's silly to go backwards in OS's... I do suppose I could try talking her into XP, not that I am happily looking forward to killing a Saturday afternoon with the task of installing XP and all the other crap onto the laptops.



        So it's better to run something that has problems that are serious enough to hamper productivity? You said it yourself, XP only came into it's prime after a couple of service packs, HOPEFULLY, Vista will was well. I've looked a the list of fixes, and unfortunately I don't think that the problems with wireless connections are part of it.
        I guess this basically answers my questions -- Vista is just a PITA with wireless connections and it's not something I would solve by putting in a new router or something? That's the bottom line here?
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        • robnix
          email robnix@gmail
          • Jan 2006
          • 2094

          #19
          Explain to your mom that down the road Vista will make a worthwhile upgrade, but for now the best option to getting everything working happily on your network is to move back to Vista. Technology that works well with existing technology isn't outdated, it's mature. If she complains, tell here that's fine, but at this point her choices are to:

          a) Buy new wireless routers until you find one that works.
          b) Stick with what she has and deal with the wireless issues until MS fixes it, or your router manufacturer releases new firmware.
          c) Move to XP and have a laptop that works on the network with the other devices, plus it'll have much better performance.

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          • rkjunior303
            I need this more than you
            • May 2003
            • 4029

            #20
            when my roommate bought a new laptop, first thing i did for him when he brought it home was format it and install XP.. he was amazed how much faster it ran.. Even with 2g ram the thing was a pig.

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            • BeaverEater
              25thID - back in hawaii
              • Oct 2003
              • 1536

              #21
              ive got a wireless router hooked up to my 360, my laptop with XP and my room mates laptop with Vista, and we have no problems at all. Its a linksys router we picked up at best buy


              I just want this stuff gone, super low prices

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              • tribalman
                Registered User
                • Dec 2002
                • 719

                #22
                Originally posted by darqueMeye
                scrap your pos pc and trade up for a mac. and with the new osx leopard out you will be the hero of the show!
                trade up for a mac?
                windows has removed the BSOD mostly, now Macs have gained it. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...shes_systems/1


                Most major OEM's are now offering XP licenses and recovery CD's for customers that bought machines with Vista Preinstalled. There seemed to be this odd demand for them.

                Something to look into, I did not know that. Thanks.
                yes they do, but only for ultimate and one step down. home is outta luck.
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                • tribalman
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 719

                  #23
                  on my home network i'm running a few computers into the router, including my classic xbox. i also have 4 laptops wirelessly connecting to it. 2 of them are using different versions of Vista, one of them is using 98SE with wireless card. because i will ocassionaly go online with my DS and W98, i am forced to use WEP. as far as i know, the vista laptops aren't having any trouble, i'm not hearing any complaints. try switching encryption protocols. yes it might be annoying to change the laptop, why(i mean wii), and 360 to connect why not give it a try. if you can still connect all the game platforms and keep vista, everyone is happy.
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                  • teufelhunden
                    Registered Bamf
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2691

                    #24
                    Originally posted by tribalman
                    on my home network i'm running a few computers into the router, including my classic xbox. i also have 4 laptops wirelessly connecting to it. 2 of them are using different versions of Vista, one of them is using 98SE with wireless card. because i will ocassionaly go online with my DS and W98, i am forced to use WEP. as far as i know, the vista laptops aren't having any trouble, i'm not hearing any complaints. try switching encryption protocols. yes it might be annoying to change the laptop, why(i mean wii), and 360 to connect why not give it a try. if you can still connect all the game platforms and keep vista, everyone is happy.
                    Will give it a shot, thanks.
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