Honestly... I see terms such as manifesto. Hey, I've seen Berlin wall thrown in there in all seriousness by certain posters. It seems to me that a select few are having a yes meeting (self edited before posting) and congratulating all five of each other on how right they are. So it comes down to AO is a horrible place and must change. Personally I don't think its that bad, its a privately funded forum that serves at least some purpose. Lord knows there are other options out there, if one is not happy with how it is there are a ton of choices. So the poll becomes simple.
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29What happened? Who cares? AO is fine, sure there are issues, but a manifesto is extreme0%20We need a manifesto, we need change, down with the man. Fight the system.0%9"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess -
The only change needed is that AO needs to pull the pool cue out of its collective lower GI.
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ive been here since like 03-04? honestly not much has changed.. they got a little stricter, but nothing TOO serious.. and alot of it is old users leaving/not checking in anymore.Comment
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I think some people need to broaden their horizons a bit given some of the comparisons being made. Hell, even search for some of the 05 threads when there was actually a decent reason being thrown around.SwallowBleach: It's good for you.
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I don't know about a "manifesto" but if what went on is even close to what is being said, then things should be changed.
For the moderators to uphold the "law" they must be held to it themselves. Moreover they must be held to a standard even higher than what common posters are held to.Comment
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Why did you include "Who Cares?" and "AO is fine" under the same option? Now I cant vote for who cares without misrepresenting my opinion.Kosmo For President '08, '12, '16... However long it takes
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I believe you have been disenfranchised of your vote and should call your congressman.Originally posted by kosmoSwallowBleach: It's good for you.
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Where have all the scooters gone? -BobTheCowComment
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The only change I'd like to see on AO is maybe letting us have sig's again. Otherwise, it's fine, just a bunch of whiny people thinking everything is unfair.Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!
Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.Comment
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Sigs, and everyone quit whining.Comment
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oh god, are we really gonna try for the sig thing again?
You people just dont get it.,Comment
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You know, I kinda miss the old political discussions. Or any debate for that matter. I understand why the mods/AO don't want to go down that road, but still, it's a lot more interesting than what we've been seeing the past couple of years.
But back on topic, a manifesto is needed. People making threads need to know what is OK and what isn't on AO.War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
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AO is nice just the way it is.
People need to realize discussions are allowed, heated arguments are not.
There will always be a few trouble makers.
There will always be a few whiners.
The mods dont want AO to turn into PBN, and I think most AO members dont want it to either.
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Unfortunately Sir, it is you who seemingly does not get it. But oh well. AO has changed a ton for oldies like me.Originally posted by behemoth
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In general I think that for anyone in a place of authority there should be some sort of system in place that would monitor how they excercise their right of authority to make sure that their actions are justified (e.g. checks and balances). So if a system such as what I've mentioned is not in place on AO, then I feel one should be, but b/c I don't understand the system in place now for moderation it's hard for me to vote either way.
Before anyone goes off on me, I'm not saying its a democracy here, or that we need a system of appeals... We all know that'd be asking to much out of the mods we have. They are given the task of policing the whole forum, and I know its not easy doing what they do. I just wonder if we need a "super mod" or something... but ohh phooey, who's going to monitor their actions
There's no perfect answer, but maybe the mods should be called upon to collectively police themselves?
Absolute power... well you know the rest
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glhf drawing people back here by simply changing the rules
most of the smart people got bored and left
most of the funny people got banned and decided it wasnt worth it
and im just a tool who comes here when theres nothing better to do.Comment
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