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  • Swampy
    Shrub Hunter
    • Oct 2006
    • 884

    #46
    Originally posted by acropilot19
    Red watery eyes, slurred speach, distinct odor of alcohol on breath & emitting from person, unsteady gait, diminished fine-motor skills, trouble following multi-step instructions, weaving in a circular motion while standing still, altered sense of time, etc....
    There are other reasons for those as well. Red Watery eyes can be from cigerette smoke, and sleep deprivation. Also Slurred speach is can be from sleep deprivation. In my case I woke up at 9am and had only 3hrs of sleep and was pulled over at 1am the next day, of course my motor skills are going to shot my brain was shutting down naturally at the time. Smell of alcohol on someone leaving a bar, Its a rowdy bar the general public and the police force knows this, people through drinks at each other like 2 hot blonde's in a wet t-shirt contest in there. Plus if you have to repeat yourself if the person is hard of hearing, which I don't need a doctor to tell me that.

    Also unlike you my arresting officer didn't ask any questions pertaining to medical, or physical fatigue or aliments, he just went ahead had me get out and do the tests. The only question he asked was if I was drinking, and I was honest. When it came to do the balance tests and turn and walk tests I had to informed him I had a bad left leg and could not do the tests accurately. The only question he asked was if I was drinking, and I was honest.

    Lohman the reason why people fight the SFST or the reason why they where pulled over is that if they were compreised in any fashion or it was a illegal stop, then the blood/blood test were then obtained illegally and can't be used as evidence. With the SFST's a major factor is if the officer is qualifed and has the expirence to do them. I would think my arresting officer is due to the fact has 2 years on the dept. and spent a term as a MP in the military (got that out of him cause I recognized the hair cut).
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    • quick_spyder
      Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 146

      #47
      This is why I hate America. Our enforcement and judiciary systems suck. In general, cops are asses. I know that "that's their job." I just think that cops forget what we pay them for. Go ahead though, shoot me down.

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      • Swampy
        Shrub Hunter
        • Oct 2006
        • 884

        #48
        Originally posted by quick_spyder
        This is why I hate America. Our enforcement and judiciary systems suck. In general, cops are asses. I know that "that's their job." I just think that cops forget what we pay them for. Go ahead though, shoot me down.
        its not the fact that they are asses. We employ them as law enforcement officers. Its their job to know that we are breaking the law or not. Which in some cases might be difficult if we are breaking it or not. Laws are writen in a funny matter some are clear as daylight, some are seem worded backwards.
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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #49
          Originally posted by Swampy
          its not the fact that they are asses. We employ them as law enforcement officers. Its their job to know that we are breaking the law or not. Which in some cases might be difficult if we are breaking it or not. Laws are writen in a funny matter some are clear as daylight, some are seem worded backwards.

          Its not hard, people just try to muddy the waters. Really its simple

          Were you operating a motor vehicle with a BAC above the legal limit? If the answer is no you have nothing to worry about.
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          • bentothejam1n
            Support our troops
            • Oct 2005
            • 1428

            #50
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            At 1AM in the morning officers are pulling you over because you're a kid? They can tell that in a moving vehicle in the dark?

            One of my buddies thinks the cops always disrespect him. He is always in a foul mood by the time they walk up to the window, and makes no effort to hide it. He almost always gets written fully.

            I generally have shrugged, said oops, and have my paperwork readily accessible. Oh, and I greet the officer as they approach. Most of the time I get a break.

            I'm sure its the cops though.
            hah i love how people act like they know what they are talking about

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            • quick_spyder
              Registered User
              • Mar 2006
              • 146

              #51
              Originally posted by Swampy
              its not the fact that they are asses. We employ them as law enforcement officers. Its their job to know that we are breaking the law or not. Which in some cases might be difficult if we are breaking it or not. Laws are writen in a funny matter some are clear as daylight, some are seem worded backwards.
              I'm not saying that all cops are asses. Just the majority as a whole act that way. Some don't care if you're breaking the law or not. A lot of police forget what enforcing a law means. But, I don't know why I'm complaining. It's all just a part of a bureaucratic system. It's America, so everything's either illegal or legal.

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              • kosmo
                KaPTaiN KeNNy
                • Dec 2000
                • 1642

                #52
                Thats because the majority of cops become cops for two reasons: they want to tell people what to do but are too stupid to ever be considered being someones boss in any other job, and they like living vicariously through the misery of other peoples lives.
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                • acropilot19
                  EAT DANGER, CRAP VICTORY!!
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 541

                  #53
                  Originally posted by kosmo
                  Thats because the majority of cops become cops for two reasons: they want to tell people what to do but are too stupid to ever be considered being someones boss in any other job, and they like living vicariously through the misery of other peoples lives.


                  I know you're not serious, thats why i laugh.
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                  • skife
                    Unregistered User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 2769

                    #54
                    Originally posted by bentothejam1n
                    hah i love how people act like they know what they are talking about

                    i'd dare say he knows abit more about stuff than you do.

                    your 17 and in highschool. been driving legally maybe a year or so?


                    he's alot older than you and probably had alot more expierence with the law that you have.




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                    • mobsterboy
                      Mr.StealYoDallara

                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2371

                      #55
                      bentothejam1n:

                      This is what gets me out of everything I've gotten into. (Well I thought you'd ask so I'll give you examples: January 2006, 115 in a 45. July 2006 65 in a 25, ran 3 stop signs and avoided arrest all on one arrest. July 2007 65 in a 45 and 60 in a 40 in one arrest. July 2007 expired insurance and registration) Be polite. Don't have an attitude. Be courteous. Believe me, whether I truly am excited to see these cops or it looks like my license will be suspended, I always act truly happy to meet any cop that comes my way. You can never repeat "There is no excuse" enough, such as for the answer to "any reason why you were doing this?". Doesn't hurt to toss in "This is the dumbest thing I could have done all night."
                      Thank the officer for being out there and stopping you. Being that you should have learned something, act thankful for that too. Honesty will get you brownie points in their book. Officer asked about guns, I said there are 2 .22 rifles in the trunk, and he can feel free to search my car. Just dont have anything to hide and you're fine.
                      Same answers go for court. Don't fight it and more than likely they'll drop it or reduce it to diddly. Just dress nicely, be polite and punctual.
                      RAWR
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                      • kosmo
                        KaPTaiN KeNNy
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 1642

                        #56
                        Originally posted by acropilot19


                        I know you're not serious, thats why i laugh.
                        Actually, about that one I am dead serious. And I didnt say all cops are like that, but most. Then when confronted by it, they all put on the impenetrable defense of "I JOINED TO SERVE AND PROTECT!" Granted theres some that did, but a lot of them should be down right ashamed to say that.
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                        • mobsterboy
                          Mr.StealYoDallara

                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2371

                          #57
                          Originally posted by kosmo
                          Actually, about that one I am dead serious. And I didnt say all cops are like that, but most. Then when confronted by it, they all put on the impenetrable defense of "I JOINED TO SERVE AND PROTECT!" Granted theres some that did, but a lot of them should be down right ashamed to say that.
                          Really? So thats why they aspire to become something higher/better than they currently are when they have to play babysitter with kids' lives by pulling them over and giving tickets... Dont glorify the job, i can think of one time that being a police officer with patrol duty has been the "cool thing" or a well-praised job....
                          RAWR
                          Dallara Den

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                          • kosmo
                            KaPTaiN KeNNy
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1642

                            #58
                            Your post makes no sense.
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                            • p8ntbal4me
                              No more UTBs!
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2560

                              #59
                              Ben;

                              Here is what you can do.

                              Go to court (if you have to appear or want to) and get there early.
                              If you dont have to go to court,... call the local PD and ask specifically to meet with that officer. Dont leave details about a speeding ticket with ANYONE but this officer!!!!!!
                              If you get off school and they are still on shift,.. plan to meet them at the PD,.. or somewhere thats convienent to them and their time.

                              Stop the officer before he/she goes into the court room and politely ask he/she if you can talk to the in regards to the recommended fines.

                              If they say no,.. then say "thank you" and proceed to state your case in court.

                              If they say yes,... tell them that you were wrong to be speeding in the first place and cant afford to have this type of offence on your driving record as a new driver. Ask the officer if the would allow the fine & points to be dropped and a 1-year probation period be used in stead. If you go a year from that day and you have no other driving offences in the period, the charge is dropped and the fine & points are waived. If you commit another driving offence in the year, the original charges (fine and points) are applied, as well as the fine from the second charge. Then they may charge you with the additional fines as well.

                              This is tells the officer that you are willing to take the steps to put yourself in all the risk on the limit that you will be responsible and prove you are a good young driver. The officer can tell the judge in court that he has agreed to an alternative instead of the fine and points. 90% of the time the judge will take the pley of the officer and do what they recommend.

                              This was told by my cousin whom is an officer. 3 times people I know have done this and it has proven to help them in the long run. No fine, no points, no problems. If you have a good driving record before this,... an officer will work with you. All you have to do is be polite, respectful of the fact that YOU WERE WRONG and you were caught. You dont have to be right,... you have to be willing to do the right thing.

                              ~ P8nt
                              _______________________
                              Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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                              • quick_spyder
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 146

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mobsterboy
                                Really? So thats why they aspire to become something higher/better than they currently are when they have to play babysitter with kids' lives by pulling them over and giving tickets... Dont glorify the job, i can think of one time that being a police officer with patrol duty has been the "cool thing" or a well-praised job....
                                I agree with kosmo. Can you explain what you're talking about?

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