Aftermath of that Rabid/Rogue/BE Thread in PB Talk...

[Smoothice]

AO used to be greater than the sum of the Thorums, PBL, BE online, et al.

Unfortunately fracturing off has made several things that together do not add up to what they were trying to replace.

thank you for explaining that.

[Brewtt]

This is like a big soap opera! I don't know what's going on... how did I find this thread anyways?

Thank goodness for good ol' MCB.

[beam]

I like how all these fractured off forums come here, to AO, to play out the drama.

I have no idea what PBL is, or BigEvilOnline for that matter. I remember the Thorums and it would suprise me if those weren't still going.

But why is this all taking place here, on AO?

[punkncat]

I like how all these fractured off forums come here, to AO, to play out the drama.

I have no idea what PBL is, or BigEvilOnline for that matter. I remember the Thorums and it would suprise me if those weren't still going.

But why is this all taking place here, on AO?

It seems to be the common ground so to speak. As most of them fractured off from AO the users keep finding themselves coming back here and in contact with those that they left because of.

[SCpoloRicker]

[pmstc]

omginternetdramalol

[jenarelJAM]

Perhaps I haven't kept quite as close a watch as I should have, but I've been with AO since 04, with a few breaks to take care of things in my own life, and I've seen good times and bad on AO. But AO keeps holding together, and it's still a long ways away from deteriorating into someplace like pbn.

Skip to 2008
So I got extracted from WoW and besides the numbers changes I decided to make, I am all for getting back into paintball and all the fun I had. A quick check of AO found that it was not much better than when I left. So I start looking around for somewhere to find people that want to do what I want to do.

This PBL place seemed quite the happening place with a large number of the people I used to enjoy talking with and many new ones. So this this schism happens and I am faced with my 4 choices again:

1- Stay and try to help.
2- Stay and do nothing.
3- Stay and try to break it down.
4- Leave and go somewhere else.

Maybe I just never hung around the type of people that answered #3, but there seem to be a lot of them here.

I guess my main concern is that AO may be slowly dying, but threads like this one make it die faster. Are you complaining about what AO is turning out to be? Doesn't that fall under Category # 3 above?

Zack, you're a legend on these forums, and this thread I think will hurt AO more than most. Particularly because it is a well-reasoned argument proposed by a man of sound judgement. However, I urge you to stick around, even if it's not your primary forum anymore.

I've had other stuff going on a lot recently (college), and I spend a lot more time lurking and less time posting, but I haven't given up on this place yet.

[going_home]

I hope that my feelings for rogue does not interfere with our possible friendship.

Um....you might want to rephrase that ?




Heres the skinny.
Pandoras has been opened and the woes cannot be put back in by anyone.
Only time can fix things and thats only if the pot is left alone and stopped being stirred
by all the "angels" on the forums.

[maxama10]

thank you for explaining that.

Oops.Sorry Carry on

[Smoothice]

I'm kind of getting the feeling this is the exact kind of post he was talking about.

If I'm misinterpreting your sarcasm or his post than I'm sorry.

Well for the whole story:

lohman had posted something very similar yesterday in the above mentioned thread.

I did not understand it then.

I think he was just being nice enough to fully explain it for me this time.

My post that you quoted thanking him was exactly that. A thank you. I was not trying to be a smarty pants or a pot stirrir.

I hope that answers your question.

[michbich]

Speaking as an outside party that has no matter in what happenned. I actualy do think that this incident was a good thing. Everyone could feel the tension building up lately, it was just a matter of time for it to come out. It was even more civilized than what i was expecting.

[Steelrat]

P.S steelrat...you just cant let it go can ya???.....then when i say something you cry and beg me to remove it

#1 I didn't mention you by name.

#2 I didn't cry

#3 I didn't beg

#4 Does it make you feel better to be insulting and rude? Little rolling laughter guy at the end make you feel clever? Oh snap, I totally pwned steelrat!

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone missed what Z-man was trying to get across.

[Ninjeff]

Just playing devils advocate here, but i wonder if anything might get "better" if the threads were allowed to continue until one or all parties involved in the conflict finally quit arguing. All closing posts do is keep that anger and frustration pent up. some one just make a thread, let the people duke it out and just let it ride. See what happens. to keep closing these kind of threads is just like playing whack-a-mole. Just have a thread where people can argue and argue and argue till they are blue in the face.

I have to say, when used properly, the fight club at PBL was a good idea.


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That being said, im not sure if i agree with myself totally. Seems wierd i know, but it was just a thought i had.

[cyberave68]

That being said, im not sure if i agree with myself totally. Seems wierd i know, but it was just a thought i had.

Ok ninjeff i'm not sure anyone ever agrees with you...lol
By the way all the parts are in and i'm sending them out tomorrow. PM me and i'll fill you in better....

Cy

[Lohman446]

Just playing devils advocate here, but i wonder if anything might get "better" if the threads were allowed to continue until one or all parties involved in the conflict finally quit arguing. All closing posts do is keep that anger and frustration pent up. some one just make a thread, let the people duke it out and just let it ride. See what happens. to keep closing these kind of threads is just like playing whack-a-mole. Just have a thread where people can argue and argue and argue till they are blue in the face.

I have to say, when used properly, the fight club at PBL was a good idea.


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That being said, im not sure if i agree with myself totally. Seems wierd i know, but it was just a thought i had.

:) Hunt back through some of the threads that have dated for years. I'm going to give you two examples. How often did College Boy ever give up an argument? Star Trek dude (whatever his name was)? Rogue? Myself? Rabid? The fact of the matter is most of us, most of the time, feel our argument is logical and obvious, and it will just take a little more convincing for others to see it that way.