tips for fighting

[bryceeden]

Easiest fight you will ever fight: Use your shin to do a muay-tai shin kick to the spot right above his knee. Thats the capacronium, a very soft pressure point that can take down almost any man. Then, use your palms to give him a good shove into the ground. Stand over him in a good firm stance so that he can't take you down. Thats the fight right there.


Here's where honor comes in. Offer him your hand and help him up. Tell him that you would rather avoid fighting, but if necessary, you are willing to put someone on the ground. This fight would not involve you breaking his teeth, or hurting him in any way but his pride.

This is the second best advise here, don't fight being first. Basically just knock them down or use pressure points and nerve bundles and walk away or whatever. If you have to fight beyond a simple knockdown/quick end with no damage done for whatever reason then fight dirty because your probably going to leave in hand cuffs anyway.

[ThePixelGuru]

so it's been a while since the thread started. did you get the crap beaten out of you yet?

I guess there's no internet connection in the ICU...

[Mikey B]

I guess there's no internet connection in the ICU...

lol

[Bang and Breach]

Keep powdered bleach in a zip-lock bag in your pocket.
Figure it out.

[coyote]

You had better be prepared to take 1 of 3 rides after a fight...

Jail
Hospital
Morgue

Those are the real facts of the situation. I have taken 2 of those rides. I have spent more than 20 years involved in sport fighting and martial arts. A fight has serious, dangerous, long term consequences.

You are posting on an internet board, so you are planning to get in a fight. Get yourself under control. You need to use your head and your mouth to avoid the conflict. Your ego isn't your friend in these situations. Enlist whatever help is necessary to avoid violence.

No techniques or tactics your read on an internet forum will be any real help. You are acting like a boy. Be a man and resolve things without putting yourself and others in danger.

[FIST2CUFF]

Nuke em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Good one!!

[edweird]

don't tense up and remember to breathe

[skyless]

Only way the be ready to defend your self is to practice. Go get some boxing gloves and some buddies, and beat the crap out of each other for a few days. You will at least learn how to dodge and take some punches and how to aim you hits. Hope you dont get hurt too bad.

[GoatBoy]

Hrm. Lots of... interesting advice in this thread.

Practicing with a bunch of other people who don't know what the Hell they're doing isn't going to help you much. The only thing it might do is help you get over the initial shock of getting hit, particularly in the face.

I do not advise getting into any street fight whatsoever. I'm not going to feed you any lectures about morality or any holier than thou bullcrap. I'll give you the reality. There are too many variables to deal with. Everything around you becomes a weapon. A pen, a set of keys, a chopstick, a cell phone, a belt, even a piece of string, all become weapons. The biggest weapon is going to be... drumroll please... the ground. I believe most fatalities in street fights occur not because of the initial blow -- it's because the guy fell down, didn't know how to break his fall, and hit his head on the ground.

There's also the buddy factor. You might be beating the first guy up, but his buddy comes from behind and donkey punches you. Incidentally, this is how the police operate. They operate purely by force of numbers and not by individual skill.

If you do wind up in a situation (you shouldn't let that happen though), I still recommend a purely defensive posture. Hold your hands up in front of you, almost like a Frankenstein saying, "Hey, I don't want any part of this". Your hands are now your feelers. If anything is going to hit you, it either has to go through your hands, in which case you have plenty of time to feel it coming and react, or it's going to be an outside haymaker, which is really easy to spot and should technically be out of range anyways if your hands are forward. Maintain your distance and do not let him hit you. If he gets within range of your hands, it's time to back up or circle left or right. Just do nothing but this. Do not engage him. Do not engage him. Do not engage him. The only thing you have to really be worried about is not letting him actually grab your hand/arms, which is easy enough to prevent. Maybe he'll try to bum rush you and tackle you, and in that case maybe you'll want to learn how to sprawl.

This will frustrate the Hell out of him, but he will also tire himself out after throwing a bunch of wild shots like most people do and missing all of them. Even boxers and kickboxers do this sometimes when they know they're outmatched, and it frustrates their opponents to no end to have to fight someone that doesn't want to fight.


Again, nothing to do with morality or "being a man" or whatever. It's just too many variables to deal with.

[Target Practice]

Haha, oh man, you guys can't be serious.

[C_losjoker]

Ok i was not going to post a reply but had to. Far as kicking someone mauy tai style, bad advise. its hard enough to plan a good kick when you have some sort of training. if you missed the kick, taking his knee out instead. guess what you just bought yourself some prison or at least a very heavy hospital bill. Same thing with the hand chop to the side of the neck. Very, very easy to do some serious damage there. I dont know about the laws where you are. But I believe in California that type of strike is ilegal and get you in big time trouble. plus again you could be looking at paying his bill or supporting him for the rest of his life.

serious just walk away, unless the guy is coming at you already, threat to you or somebody you care about just not worth it. I always said defense always wins it, make sure you cover your face. dont drop your hands down trying to look like a bad ***, keep them up. and make sure you keep your elbown in and tight to the body. elbows are always great for covering and protecting your ribs and sides. plus if the guy takes a shot at you there, if you are fast enough you can bring your elbows down on his hand or arms, that he will feel. thats my two cents.
joker

[Lohman446]

Although I will agree with the sentiments that you should walk away whenever possible I disagree that defense wins.

Understand though thats from a Kenpo background, we barely even considered the concept of defense.

On defense you are at the disadvantage, you are reacting to the other persons attacks. You have to be 100% or eventually they are going to get through those defenses effectively and things are going to compound. One good swing overcomes ten good blocks.

Once the other person has become a serious threatt you cannot escape from stop that threat as quickly and effectively as possible, with whatever weapon(s) you have available. And trust me, even unarmed I can look around and find a weapon.

Again, if its not worth going to jail over its not worth fighting for.

[GoatBoy]

Although I will agree with the sentiments that you should walk away whenever possible I disagree that defense wins.

Understand though thats from a Kenpo background, we barely even considered the concept of defense.

On defense you are at the disadvantage, you are reacting to the other persons attacks. You have to be 100% or eventually they are going to get through those defenses effectively and things are going to compound. One good swing overcomes ten good blocks.

Once the other person has become a serious threatt you cannot escape from stop that threat as quickly and effectively as possible, with whatever weapon(s) you have available. And trust me, even unarmed I can look around and find a weapon.

Again, if its not worth going to jail over its not worth fighting for.

It actually doesn't surprise me that a kenpo guy doesn't much believe in defense

I know you guys like simultaneous block-strikes, but there are other options. You don't have to respond to a strike with a strike; that just leads to the monkey slapping scene in Night at the Museum. You don't even have to respond to a strike with a block. You can just respond by just backing away. Work on that ol' footwork.

[Lohman446]

I did point out escape is almost always the best idea though .

If you're going to block, block the elbows / knees from the outside in. It will lessen the blow, and if done right be a very effective offensive move. Then again, its overly complicated and harder to do than you would think. I know that in offense / defense drills that ran over 60 seconds I never saw offense fail to score a hit.

[OneUp]

guys.

he hasn't been posting here in a long long time.

you're probably giving fighting tips to a dead guy.