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  • zondo
    One of 8 bosses... again.

    • Dec 2006
    • 2245

    #1

    Sign of the times?

    2 articles for your perusal....

    Extreme Home makeover house

    Shenanigans
    Stay Classy, AO...
    BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP
  • wetwrks
    Splatting since '85

    • Jun 2007
    • 1828

    #2
    Just the tip of the iceberg. You will be seeing lots more just like this.

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    • Steelrat
      I meant to...uh, nevermind
      • May 2003
      • 5375

      #3
      The media shows us what we want to see. Everyone thinks the sky is falling, so that's what is shown to them. It's bad out there, but a lot of this stuff occurs even during the up periods.


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      • MoeMag
        Still here.
        • Dec 2005
        • 1821

        #4

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        • sffudapparel
          Skydive!
          • Mar 2008
          • 604

          #5
          I have no sympathy for the extreme makeover family. You get a break and get a 450,000 dollar brand new house and you risk the whole thing. That's just a dumb decision on the family's part.

          Unfortunately, tough times like this happen. Can't ride the boom train forever, but it will get better eventually.

          But maybe this will open some people's eyes that their irrational spending habits and start saving money. Guys who work with my dad are in their late 30s and early 40s and have no savings and still live paycheck to paycheck. Kinda sad..

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          • zondo
            One of 8 bosses... again.

            • Dec 2006
            • 2245

            #6
            Originally posted by sffudapparel
            I have no sympathy for the extreme makeover family. You get a break and get a 450,000 dollar brand new house and you risk the whole thing. That's just a dumb decision on the family's part.

            Unfortunately, tough times like this happen. Can't ride the boom train forever, but it will get better eventually.

            But maybe this will open some people's eyes that their irrational spending habits and start saving money. Guys who work with my dad are in their late 30s and early 40s and have no savings and still live paycheck to paycheck. Kinda sad..
            You know, the extreme makeover people do a phenomenal job with taking care of the family and custom building the home for them. But they're huge! Imagine the drain on families already squeaking by and now they have to pay to heat/cool it!
            Stay Classy, AO...
            BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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            • Hexis
              Green Mag Freak
              • Sep 2001
              • 2427

              #7
              Originally posted by zondo
              You know, the extreme makeover people do a phenomenal job with taking care of the family and custom building the home for them. But they're huge! Imagine the drain on families already squeaking by and now they have to pay to heat/cool it!
              Try reading. They setup a fund for house maintenance. If a family is just squeaking by and gets the mortgage removed from the equation, should be just fine.

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              • sffudapparel
                Skydive!
                • Mar 2008
                • 604

                #8
                Originally posted by zondo
                Imagine the drain on families already squeaking by and now they have to pay to heat/cool it!

                The reason they are getting foreclosed is because they put it as collateral on a loan to start a construction business that failed already.

                Also, like what has been said, a huge boost aside from a new house would be not having a mortgage to pay every month.

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                • zondo
                  One of 8 bosses... again.

                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2245

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hexis
                  Try reading. They setup a fund for house maintenance. If a family is just squeaking by and gets the mortgage removed from the equation, should be just fine.
                  Originally posted by sffudapparel
                  The reason they are getting foreclosed is because they put it as collateral on a loan to start a construction business that failed already.

                  Also, like what has been said, a huge boost aside from a new house would be not having a mortgage to pay every month.
                  True... being a homeowner paying a mortgage for a few years now, I keep forgetting that the money would be available. I keep thinking of that money as already spent. I definitely can think of how I could reallocate those funds if I were relieved of a mortgage.

                  Nice that ABC advises them to consult a financial advisor... Ricardo's iron law could bite other Extreme Makeover families in the rear .
                  Stay Classy, AO...
                  BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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                  • wetwrks
                    Splatting since '85

                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1828

                    #10
                    Originally posted by zondo
                    ABC advises them to consult a financial advisor
                    And if we were to find that the advisor suggested they try and start this business?

                    If the economy were better this might have been a good move on their part. And the drop in the economy may not have really begun when they took out the loan.

                    There is two sides to every story and we really haven't heard that of the family.

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                    • sffudapparel
                      Skydive!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 604

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wetwrks
                      And if we were to find that the advisor suggested they try and start this business?

                      Then that's the worst financial adviser ever.

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                      • zondo
                        One of 8 bosses... again.

                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2245

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sffudapparel
                        Then that's the worst financial adviser ever.
                        Fannie Mae?
                        Stay Classy, AO...
                        BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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                        • wetwrks
                          Splatting since '85

                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1828

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sffudapparel
                          Then that's the worst financial adviser ever.
                          If this was before the downturn of the economy then it might not have been bad advice. Things were looking really good in the construction industry (real estate in general) just before and even early on when the foreclosures started.

                          I got my real estate license just before all this started. I was meeting agents that were making 1M a year. Then everything died. There hasn't been a lot of construction going on as people arn't buying like they were. Additionally the loan industry (because of the foreclosure situation) has become VERY selective as to who they will loan to. I am aware of 2 families who had really good credit ratings (mid 700s) and low debt that were refused home loans.

                          Anyways, if this family could have gotten this going in about '04 and had any idea about construction and running a business they would have probably done really well. Part of this is probably just timing. Just like my entry into the real estate business has been severely hampered by the economy. Did I make a bad decision? No, I don't think so. Just bad timing.

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                          • sffudapparel
                            Skydive!
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 604

                            #14
                            it very well could have been just bad timing. I'm not trying to bad mouth you or anything of that nature. I'm just saying that if I was handed what was called a mini-mansion, I wouldn't make the same financial decision that now lands this family out of their house in ~3 years.

                            Also, sorry to hear about your bad luck though man

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                            • wetwrks
                              Splatting since '85

                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1828

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sffudapparel
                              I'm not trying to bad mouth you or anything of that nature. I'm just saying that if I was handed what was called a mini-mansion, I wouldn't make the same financial decision that now lands this family out of their house in ~3 years.
                              No offense taken, just trying to point out that we arn't hearing all of this story and that at the time it may have been a potentially very profitable deal for them.

                              It is said that either you are moving forwards or you are moving back. Looks to me like they were trying to better themselves and sadly it didn't work out. I have to respect that they didn't lose it to drugs or neglect, I really expected that to be the reason.

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