I need to rant.

[Chris Nearchos]

hmm

one thing i dont get is testing to begin with. just because you can show your knowledge on paper doesnt mean a thing about the real world.....and vice versa. That is deffintly something i have learned being around all the high end nerds in my feild of study. they can add 2 and 2 on paper.....but you tell them to do it with their hands.....they fail from the start.

so I dont think it is right at all to just test what someone can do on paper.


now the other thing that burns my butt about test is having a professor teach you "easy" and then go and test you "hard ball". I believe that one should only be tested on what and how they were taught in that class. you want to grade hard/rough then teach it hard. and vise versa. that way the test are fair and equal on level between the teaching and testing.


but back to the main topic of this thread. I had one professor say something to me once that makes perfect sence about testing.

"A professor must be able to take his/her test in half of the alloted time for the test. If they cant, then the test is too long or too difficult and needs to be fixed"

just my two cents on the subject,
-Chris

[p8ntbal4me]

I am taking a Physics I class right now.

My teacher is a really smart guy,.. which,.. tends to be our classes problem.

Not to mention he has the second STRONGEST accent I have ever heard in my life. So understanding him is VERY difficult.

I did a take home test, which took me 3 hours to complete.

He gave me an F.

After going over all my answers in class,... they were all RIGHT!

I brought it to his attention,.. and he said "you didnt note what your substitutions were,.. so I take a few point away from each mistake."

It took the following statement to get him to bring my grade back to a B+: "You told us you didnt care which formula or method we used as long as we knew what we were doing. Its obvious by the notation of the correct answers on my test that I knew what I was doing. I have to sit in the back of this class with the lights dimmed each night after working a full days worth of work and listen to your broken english just like everyone else does..... its pretty obvious you know what your doing and its pretty obvious I can learn from you. So why dont you put my grade back to where it was and not give me a reason to make an appointment with the Dean about what you gave to the entire class for instructions prior to taking this class with you."

I got a notice in the mail from the school saying I was failing my class this week.
Even after I checked all my grades and they calcualte me as a B+ student

I dont like argueing with my teachers,.... but sometimes,.. there is one or 2 that need to pushed a little bit to see how badly they are hurting the students more than helping them.

~ P8nt

[Hilltop Customs]

"A professor must be able to take his/her test in half of the alloted time for the test. If they cant, then the test is too long or too difficult and needs to be fixed"

thats the exact same way I think on it too.....well I'd think the professor should be able to take the test in 1/4th the time at most since they have years of experience on the specific subject.

p8nt: funny you mention accents, combined a bad accent with bad handwritting and I dont even understand how anyone is supposed to learn anything from gibberish and scribbles. Most of the time you can get used to an accent over time, but I've had a few profs that I simplely couldnt learn from because I couldnt understand a word they were saying. Good to hear you stood up to your professor about the grade, and I'm glad it worked out for you. I'm still waiting to get my score back to figure out what is going to be my course of action.

I'll probably be ranting in here again, my CAD/CAM professor has taken us on a 3 week long tangent into matrices.....I've now stopped attending that class since it provides no information about CAD/CAM.(the labs are mandatory, and the only place we learn anything worthwhile)