John Cena (WWE) makes children cry

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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #16
    I dunno...in the intrest, mostly, of playing Devil's advocate for a moment.

    It sound like the guy sat down and did autographs for an hour. Now really, how long was he supposed to sit there? What quota of fans was he supposed to make?
    Personally in some cases I would think it unreasonable to expect him to just sit there for hours on end until people quit coming or whatever. That could lead to a whole lot of signing as more and more people show up.

    I know that both my kids were famous for throwing a fit when something didn't go their way. They would get upset over most anything to the point of tears, quickly and easily. And pretty much get over it as soon as something else distracted them. To say he was "mean" because he didn't sit there all night till every possible interested person was taken care of is a bit judgemental. What if right as he was done, 30 more people jumped in line?
    Should he have sat there that much longer?

    Maybe he had somewhere to be, had a bad day, someone said something unbecoming to him?

    Not meant at all as a personal attack against you War...just going only on a vague perception of the situation leaves lots to question.

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    • Will Wood
      Evil Monkey
      • May 2002
      • 3475

      #17
      I read "In the middle of the signing session" as he left half way before he was supposed to.

      But yea, vague.

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      • Warwitch
        Resident Skeptic

        • May 2006
        • 3176

        #18
        YEah I cant say that I know what kind of arrangement they had but none the less it was just in bad taste. It probably would have taken him another 20 minutes. At the very least he could have verbally acknowledged them. Very unprofessional IMO. Especially in a time when people are being much more watchful of their dollars. Those same parents will more likely be spending that money at Chuckie Cheese next time.

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        • Phaelynar
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 268

          #19
          Originally posted by Warwitch
          YEah I cant say that I know what kind of arrangement they had but none the less it was just in bad taste. It probably would have taken him another 20 minutes. At the very least he could have verbally acknowledged them. Very unprofessional IMO. Especially in a time when people are being much more watchful of their dollars. Those same parents will more likely be spending that money at Chuckie Cheese next time.

          The WWE or WWF is like the most watched television program worldwide. The 20 parents that threw a hissy fit over a "celebrity" not signing autographs are just as annoying as their whiny little kids that didn't get one. As someone else mentioned, for every extra autograph he signed, there would be 50 other people crying they also didn't get one. Where's the line drawn?

          I've been to pre-season baseball games over an hour early in anticipation of the big name players signing autographs. Guess what? They walk right by you, listening to you shout their name to come sign a few autographs because you got their early, and they outright ignore you like you don't exist. It's their choice. If they signed every autograph (they being "celebrities"), they wouldn't have time to do anything else. Also their autograph would be so widely disseminated and commonplace that the "value" of having one would be meaningless.

          This is coming from someone who has 6 Dan Marino autographs, 2 Roger Clemens baseballs, Shaq's autograph on a bagel card, Bobby Orr's autograph on a hockey stick, a few Herschel Walker ones, some Nomar autographs, and a few Willie Lanier autographs. There's some others lying around my room in Boston somewhere as well. If everyone had those they'd have zero value.

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          • grEnAlEins
            dazed and confused
            • Jul 2002
            • 2864

            #20
            Originally posted by Phaelynar
            The WWE or WWF is like the most watched television program worldwide. The 20 parents that threw a hissy fit over a "celebrity" not signing autographs are just as annoying as their whiny little kids that didn't get one. As someone else mentioned, for every extra autograph he signed, there would be 50 other people crying they also didn't get one. Where's the line drawn?

            I've been to pre-season baseball games over an hour early in anticipation of the big name players signing autographs. Guess what? They walk right by you, listening to you shout their name to come sign a few autographs because you got their early, and they outright ignore you like you don't exist. It's their choice. If they signed every autograph (they being "celebrities"), they wouldn't have time to do anything else. Also their autograph would be so widely disseminated and commonplace that the "value" of having one would be meaningless.

            This is coming from someone who has 6 Dan Marino autographs, 2 Roger Clemens baseballs, Shaq's autograph on a bagel card, Bobby Orr's autograph on a hockey stick, a few Herschel Walker ones, some Nomar autographs, and a few Willie Lanier autographs. There's some others lying around my room in Boston somewhere as well. If everyone had those they'd have zero value.
            1) That is why you have event staff cut off the line (no new people in line after such and such a time) when you start getting an inkling that you want to leave. It is perfectly feasible, we did it all the time where I used to work.

            2) A sporting event is not a time designated exclusively to signing autographs. This was an autograph signing, and an entirely different situation than a sporting event. To compare the two situations is not appropriate if you want to arrive at a meaningful conclusion.

            3) What does that have to do with anything? It does not make this any less of a douche nozzley move. He should have either had someone cut off the line and finish it out, or at least address the people who were still in line. Also, not all celebrities act the way this douche nozzle did. I have witnessed several similar situations that were handled far more appropriately. If Tony Hawk can do the right thing during the height of his popularity, then so can this guy.

            I have no problem with a celeb or athlete refusing to sign autographs, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. This was the wrong way, period. I take no issue with a celeb refusing to sign an autograph when doing something privately (out to dinner, the movies, or the like), at an event where it is not appropriate (sporting event, while on the set of/filming a movie, etc.), or even "drawing the line" as you say. That is not unreasonable. But to just up and walk away from a designated autograph session is sickening. He he should have had someone cut off the line or at least explained the situation. It is obvious that he did not have the integrity or respect to do this the right way, and that is fine because there was no real obligation. The question here is to what degree do you expect someone to act with decency. Some have higher standards and expectations than others, and that is fine.
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            • Phaelynar
              Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 268

              #21
              No matter how you look at it, none of us know the exact circumstance(s). For all you know, someone in line could have called him a(n) (insert expletive here) and that's why he left. He could have had a headache, a stomach ache, or just wasn't in the mood to do it. He could have been signaled or told by someone to leave, who knows. With that being said, you can't say "He made kids cry" or "He's a(n) (insert expletive)" without knowing the facts. I'm sure someone knows the reasoning behind it, whether it was a legitimate one or not.


              If he did it because he didn't feel like signing the quantity of autographs of everyone that was there, then that's his prerogative to do so or not to do so. If he had a legitimate reason for leaving or was told to leave by someone in charge of the event, then that's just tough luck to those who showed up. Just because it's a "signing" does not guarantee everyone an autograph because they went unless that was specified.

              I'm not taking sides one way or the other, but without the cold hard facts I can't remain more than neutral on the issue, and neither should anyone else.

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              • Warwitch
                Resident Skeptic

                • May 2006
                • 3176

                #22
                I posted the story because I was there. The guy dicked those kids. End of story.

                I received a return email from WWE saying that it would be looked into.

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                • rifleman wi
                  1st ID- The Big Red One
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1988

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Warwitch
                  I posted the story because I was there. The guy dicked those kids. End of story.

                  I received a return email from WWE saying that it would be looked into.
                  i guess the wwe is going to be here in december some time doing a show, and their letting some aoldiers re-enlist inbetween matches.. to bad i allready re-enlisted, but how sweet would it be to have the undertaker or the big show power bomb you right after you say the oath.. hopefully someone will do that..

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                  • koleah
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 797

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Warwitch
                    The guy dicked those kids.

                    I received a return email from WWE saying that it would be looked into.
                    I should hope so. Pedophilia is illegal after all...

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