Lori Drew GUILTY! ('cyberbully' case)

[bornl33t]

Just to go on the record. If anyone one here makesfun on me I'm going to settle this the old fashion way and beat you. And now I can claim I was being harassed and it's all legal again, just like in the 50's. So I guess we've come full circle....it's all good.

[Phaelynar]

I agree there is plenty of blame to go around.

If I tell a four year old child that Santa Claus needs saving (and the world will be a better place with Santa after all) and is in that river just a couple hundred feet below this bridge and they jump is it different?

That was a terrible analogy. A four year old's concept of life or death (jumping off the bridge) and a thirteen year old's concept of whether or not to jump would not be the same. It'd almost be irrational to believe that the four year old would have a complete grasp on the concept of death, suicide, etc.

Also, whether or not the adult who bullied the kid had a life, is an idiot, etc. does not nullify the fact that the parents of the thirteen year old clearly had no control over what their mentally ill child did in her spare time.

If the woman is being charged, these parents should also be charged with crimes relating to their daughters death, have any other children in their home removed by child services (if they have any), and be barred from producing any or adopting any more children in the future.

[bornl33t]

That was a terrible analogy. A four year old's concept of life or death (jumping off the bridge) and a thirteen year old's concept of whether or not to jump would not be the same. It'd almost be irrational to believe that the four year old would have a complete grasp on the concept of death, suicide, etc.

Also, whether or not the adult who bullied the kid had a life, is an idiot, etc. does not nullify the fact that the parents of the thirteen year old clearly had no control over what their mentally ill child did in her spare time.

If the woman is being charged, these parents should also be charged with crimes relating to their daughters death, have any other children in their home removed by child services (if they have any), and be barred from producing any or adopting any more children in the future.

The better analogy would be if you knew your child was unstable and potentially suicidal would you not keep a close eye on everything it did? I think the parents are at fault.

[michbich]

The better analogy would be if you knew your child was unstable and potentially suicidal would you not keep a close eye on everything it did? I think the parents are at fault.

I think everyone involved are at fault.

[bornl33t]

I think everyone involved are at fault.

I'll agree to that, only the verdict doesn't reflect that rational.

[SCpoloRicker]

Dude, uh, about the Three Wheely image macro... and the FUSH stuff... and Porch!1...

Uh...

It was all behemoth's idea.

[geekwarrior]

While the suicide is tragic and Lori Drew is a horrible person, the verdict sets a pretty scary precedent regarding social networking sites and terms of use.

Groklaw has a pretty interesting writeup about it that's worth reading:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20081128005538214

There's also a little more to the story in there than what the news has reported...

[zipity_Bop]

ummmm well saying drew killed her is like saying guns are evil or bush is responsible for the hurricane in New Orleans. This is purely bad parenting. It's a shame Americans are un able to grasp the bigger picture of every decision they make. How can a country be so void of responcibility?
If I tell you I hate you and you should probably kill your self, whould you? If you answered "no" I would call that rational thought and I made my point. If you said I hate me too and I'm consdering suicide then I guess there is a proble with me? How about you are unstable and should probably be evaluated? What if you tell me to die and instead of suicide I find a school and empty a few mags into the student body? Is this then my fault or yours?
If you tell me to die what can I do so that it's enough not to tip the scale and still be your fault while I get off free?
If this isn't sufficient to make my case then America is in worse trouble then a president that won on the princible of taking money from some and giving it to others. God help us.

you're analogy is based on the fact that "drew killed her", nobody is disputing that she didn't kill her. did she cause her to kill herself, yes. do guns cause evil, yes. and that bush thing isn't related at all. bad parenting? If you had kids(I pray to god you don't) you would not be able to monitor what they do 24/7 it's impossible. but it is a product of bad parenting on the Drew's side. her idea of family bonding is verbally assaulting a THIRTEEN y/o with suicidal tendencies over the web. and then you go on a rant, in all of the school shootings people "bullying" is at the root of most causes. but the kid's behind the gun are held personally responsible, nobody prosecutes the kid who called him names. and Obama didn't win on the "princible of taking money from some and giving it to others" it takes a lot more than that to get an American vote. and when people like you insult America as a whole it doesn't make you look cool or smart, it makes you look ignorant. not like it was needed though.

[Lohman446]

http://www.thefreedomfactory.us/ever...ica-will-fail/

[bornl33t]

you're analogy is based on the fact that "drew killed her", nobody is disputing that she didn't kill her. did she cause her to kill herself, yes..

No, her "condition" killed her; a normal person would not care enough to commit suicide because of words from another person....especially one they've never met.

do guns cause evil, yes. .

Again, NO. Guns are an inanimate object. Trees, cars, carpet and yes guns are incapable of evil.

and that bush thing isn't related at all. .

Exactly the reason I brought it up.

bad parenting? If you had kids(I pray to god you don't) you would not be able to monitor what they do 24/7 it's impossible. but it is a product of bad parenting on the Drew's side. her idea of family bonding is verbally assaulting a THIRTEEN y/o with suicidal tendencies over the web. and then you go on a rant, in all of the school shootings people "bullying" is at the root of most causes. but the kid's behind the gun are held personally responsible, nobody prosecutes the kid who called him names. and Obama didn't win on the "princible of taking money from some and giving it to others" it takes a lot more than that to get an American vote. and when people like you insult America as a whole it doesn't make you look cool or smart, it makes you look ignorant. not like it was needed though.

And I quit reasoning about there. I'm not one to nit pick but your use of the shift key, or rather lack of use, coupled with poor grammar makes this a hard read. Apparently I got you excited-please do not commit suicide, I can't afford a lawsuit right now.

Your obviously a lib; you cannot see past your passion however misplaced it is; you tell me not to insult Americans when they are going a darn good job of it them selves, which brings me to my last observation-you obviously have no idea what your candidate stands for which is why he won.

You did make a great point though. I'm not so mentally ill as to go commit suicide because some one I've never met tells me I'm ignorant. In fact looking at everything you've had to say in just one post I can tell your probably not a credible source of information, especially in regards to my short comings.