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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    Who lets an 8 year old get the door?

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    A tragic as this was it should have been avoidable. I am of the beleif that one should look at things like this and understand where things went wrong, and how the most minor of details can help prevent this. I am not talking the full fledge home defense plan that I personally beleive everyone should have in place, I am talking the simple details.

    DO NOT LET CHILDREN GET THE DOOR. It should not even be a question, doorbell rings, there's a knock, whatever, an able bodied adult (preferably one that is prepared) should get the door.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • Rudz
    Registered User

    • Apr 2005
    • 5087

    #2
    I never let a child open the door, especially if the guest is unknown, but it was a holiday, and the family was probably expecting relatives, it was a very sad event, and the most traumatic part is the child survived, imagine how they will feel towards the holiday season now, after being shot piont blank in the face by someone dressed as santa clause, and to top it off, the shooter took the easy way out and commited suicide.

    I have always had dogs to anounce any visitors, and at time they have to be let in locked gates, or led in due to the dogs preventing any unwanted guests. Always look thru a window/ door peep hole, espscially if no one is being expected.
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    • Avianrave
      Registered User
      • Jun 2008
      • 146

      #3
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      Seems he wasn't planning on suicide, but did it because of pain he was going through.

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      • Dark Side
        RPG Fan Club President
        • Sep 2005
        • 1212

        #4
        Damn. Why shoot the kid. The only thing she did wrong was answer the door.

        Questions aside; she probably would have been shot anyhow the way things went down.

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        • MeÐiCX
          Boneyard PB
          • Feb 2007
          • 662

          #5
          A prepared able bodied adult?

          Seriously, who would ever expect something like that? Do you answer your door with the expectation that the guy on the other side has a loaded gun and bomb??

          Not a damn thing you are going to do with a bullet in your head.

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          • Babylon 5
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 200

            #6
            You know what the sick thing is though? It was probly the only reason she survived was because she got hit with one bullet instead of the bullet flying onslaught that took place after the inital entry into the home. Then of course the homemade flame thrower then comes into play next.

            It's just a bad situation all around.

            I wish that girl a speedy recovery.

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #7
              A prepared able bodied adult?

              Seriously, who would ever expect something like that? Do you answer your door with the expectation that the guy on the other side has a loaded gun and bomb??

              Not a damn thing you are going to do with a bullet in your head.
              I always answer the door with a lot of caution, and if it had been an adult he would have at least had to raise his arms upward to fire into the head. I expect the poor child got hit in the head only because of height.

              That being said, you are right to a big extent. Anyone having that large of an element surprise is going to likely be able to overtake the person at the door, especially if that well armed.
              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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              • Dark Side
                RPG Fan Club President
                • Sep 2005
                • 1212

                #8
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                I always answer the door with a lot of caution, and if it had been an adult he would have at least had to raise his arms upward to fire into the head. I expect the poor child got hit in the head only because of height.

                That being said, you are right to a big extent. Anyone having that large of an element surprise is going to likely be able to overtake the person at the door, especially if that well armed.
                Anyone willing to shoot a kid in the head, is willing to kill an adult. By any means needed. Hopefully the kid lives to not remember the ordeal.

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                • MANN
                  I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 4266

                  #9

                  Seriously, who would ever expect something like that? Do you answer your door with the expectation that the guy on the other side has a loaded gun and bomb??
                  If I don't recognize the person through the peep hole/ front window I have a gun in my pocket.

                  on topic. I dont think a gun at the door would have helped. The element of suprise would have got anyone. Its sad to think that someone would do something like that especially to a kid.

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                  • fire1811
                    Firefighter
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 4930

                    #10
                    A prepared able bodied adult?

                    Seriously, who would ever expect something like that? Do you answer your door with the expectation that the guy on the other side has a loaded gun and bomb??

                    Not a damn thing you are going to do with a bullet in your head.
                    Call me crazy but I never answer the door without my Glock 21SF. Especially when I am not expecting anyone.
                    "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                    Alway Remember *343*

                    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                    • Will Wood
                      Evil Monkey
                      • May 2002
                      • 3475

                      #11
                      Crazy indeed, hopefully you never need it.

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                      • skife
                        Unregistered User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2769

                        #12
                        sounds like that whore of an ex wife of his took him for all he had, plus more.

                        $1800 a month alamony?
                        honestly, $21,000 a year to do nothing at all?

                        sounds like alot of BS to me.




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                        • fire1811
                          Firefighter
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 4930

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Will Wood
                          Crazy indeed, hopefully you never need it.
                          More than likely not, but maybe just once I will.
                          "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                          Alway Remember *343*

                          Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                          • domeplz
                            reppin dat kck
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lohman446
                            I always answer the door with a lot of caution
                            you are one paranoid mf

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                            • Hexis
                              Green Mag Freak
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 2427

                              #15
                              In this day and age I would fully expect someone to call me from their cell before they knocked on my door if they came over. If I get an unannounced knock on the door the first thing I do is look for the UPS of FedEX truck. If I don't see that I get real cautious.

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