global warming?

[busby]

http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Esse...ocs-and-emails

[going_home]

Algored

Here we go again ......... Oh and in before the lock. Heheh.

[drg]

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/

http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/20/hacked-hadley-emails-hottest-decade-on-record-and-the-oceans-planet-keep-warming/

[vf-xx]

Because I'm too lazy to actually click links and make an intelligent post:

It is caused by Taco bell and the affluence of bean burritos...

That is all.

[fishmishin]

Dang methane gases !

[drg]

Because I'm too lazy to actually click links and make an intelligent post:

It is caused by Taco bell and the affluence of bean burritos...

That is all.

In short it's typical conservative misinformation, taking a few sound bites (in this case email bites) and completely unabashedly misrepresenting them. Confidently and arrogantly. It's too bad that works so well.

[vf-xx]

In short it's typical conservative misinformation, taking a few sound bites (in this case email bites) and completely unabashedly misrepresenting them. Confidently and arrogantly. It's too bad that works so well.

You know that I can't take that at face value right? We know where each of us stands on that spectrum.

Realistically I am not technically informed to make a real decision. But from what I've read and lived, it's real, but it may be beyond our control. I do believe that scientists have shown large fluctuation in earths temperature in the past.

But really. Have you seen the methane capture devices they have for cows? Really!!

http://www.treehugger.com/cow-fart-collection-device-photo

[wetwrks]

Oddly enough the news a few months back admitted that the earths temp hasn't changed one degree in 10 years.

Additionally these scientists cannot explain the fact that all the planets in our solar system experienced the same temp changes. This points that it isn't man or the earth that is changing but an effect from the sun.

[going_home]

Oddly enough the news a few months back admitted that the earths temp hasn't changed one degree in 10 years.

Additionally these scientists cannot explain the fact that all the planets in our solar system experienced the same temp changes. This points that it isn't man or the earth that is changing but an effect from the sun.

Algore is on the way over to spoon feed you his koolaide so you can be healed.























Global warming is.............

[grEnAlEins]

Ask an MIT scientist:
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7...-MIT-Scientist

Also, there is far from a consensus, so knock off the liberal snobbery in this thread. If you are trusting a UN or IPCC study you are a fool.

[grEnAlEins]

Does anyone else find it interesting that a "natural phenomenon" can coincide so perfectly with political goals?

How about global cooling? It is many of the same people advocating global warming...

[BiNumber3]

It'd be more "correct" to call it global climate change..

As for the relevance of co2, it has more to do with the fact that it "plugs" holes

Think the primary gas that traps IR radiation from earth is gaseous h2o, what co2 does is block the IR radiation that h20 doesnt, kind of like filling in cracks in a wall preventing the heat from escaping.
So even though co2 isnt a huge part on its own, combined with other factors already present it can make a huge impact.

I've got to ask tho, there's the argument that humans haven't changed much as far as atmospheric composition, and yet throughout the history of humanity, we've been inventing things that gradually affect the atmosphere (cars for example), and we've been changing the environment/ecosystem (cows and deforestation?). So how can people really believe that we humans have an unnooticable impact on the earth?

Ive seen reports saying one thing, and reports saying another, who knows what's true about whether temperature has or has not risen, however, even a couple degrees of change in global temperature will affect the levels of h2o in the atmosphere, and seeing how most of the earth's surface is water, that's a lot of water in or out of the atmosphere with just a small change in temp.

Also, a lot of reports I've read focus on one area, paying no heed to neighboring areas and what not, this is a Global thing, not just local, so you can't look at one area, and say it's the same with everywhere else


Lastly, yes, the earth can and will fix itself in time, assuming of course humans stop breaking things....


As for the political goals, politicians will use information in whatever way they can, merely because theyre using doesnt have to mean anything one way or another

[drg]

Ask an MIT scientist:
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7...-MIT-Scientist

Also, there is far from a consensus, so knock off the liberal snobbery in this thread. If you are trusting a UN or IPCC study you are a fool.

That has nothing to do with this thread. But it is pretty telling that you immediately became defensive like that.

[bornl33t]

awww c'mon that was an awesome post....


oh well, who cares what's in those emails? If global warming is true then we are either already doomed or fine. Either way the government will spend all our money on solving it.

Besides...this "science" that explains global warming/cooling, that clearly calculates all variables and has no political or religious bias.....is it the same science we are using to explain evolution? It is no small wonder, the argumentational gymnastics a person will perform to interpret data within their own presuppositional framework.

Seriously, there's no human or computer that has the information to explain it all. I cannot believe you are putting your faith in this.

[BiNumber3]

the science we use also provides groundwork for things like... oh, i don't know, automags?