Arizona to Allow Concealed Weapons Without Permit !

[warbeak2099]

Those who think a permit is a good idea, need to study up on what a "Constitutional right" is.


Permission must never be required to excersize a right given by our Creator. The Constitution enumerates this.

So we shouldn't make people work for something which requires responsibility and maturity? Eh, no thanks. I'd rather not go further down that road than we already are. As it is, people in this country get away with too much too often. Stop rewarding the colossally stupid and irresponsible. I'd much rather have a few, exceptional people armed and ready to defend themselves and myself than the majority of the population (the aforementioned stupid and irresponsible masses). Can you imagine just handing out permission to carry a concealed firearm to just any 21yo who asks for it? Are you serious? People who deserve it based on their merit should be allowed to assume that responsibility, not someone who can't responsibly handle it. The latter is a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

There's a quote about duty by Vice Admiral James Stockdale that illustrates my point perfectly:

"Unless we are willing to balance each of the rights we claim with a correlative duty, we'll be as a nation like the man who wants a dollar's pay but is not willing to do a dollar's worth of work to get it. Rights incur obligations."

Removing any obligations from these rights creates a society in which responsibility has no place. I'd rather not live in that kind of society.

[maxama10]

So we shouldn't make people work for something which requires responsibility and maturity? Eh, no thanks. I'd rather not go further down that road than we already are. As it is, people in this country get away with too much too often. Stop rewarding the colossally stupid and irresponsible. I'd much rather have a few, exceptional people armed and ready to defend themselves and myself than the majority of the population (the aforementioned stupid and irresponsible masses). Can you imagine just handing out permission to carry a concealed firearm to just any 21yo who asks for it? Are you serious? People who deserve it based on their merit should be allowed to assume that responsibility, not someone who can't responsibly handle it. The latter is a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

There's a quote about duty by Vice Admiral James Stockdale that illustrates my point perfectly:

"Unless we are willing to balance each of the rights we claim with a correlative duty, we'll be as a nation like the man who wants a dollar's pay but is not willing to do a dollar's worth of work to get it. Rights incur obligations."

Removing any obligations from these rights creates a society in which responsibility has no place. I'd rather not live in that kind of society.

You're still obligated to behave responsibly.

[Pneumagger]

Can you imagine just handing out permission to carry a concealed firearm to just any 21yo who asks for it? Are you serious?

Evidently, everyone who lives in Alaska and Vermont imagine this everyday.
And there appears to be NO problems in those states.

Plus, responsibility and culpability still apply. AZ was a shall issue state... unless the applicant had a felony or prior criminal history a permit was granted unconditionally. The only difference now is that people don't have to pay for or carry around a peice of plastic and dole out $100+.

[zondo]

Evidently, everyone who lives in Alaska and Vermont imagine this everyday.
And there appears to be NO problems in those states.

Plus, responsibility and culpability still apply. AZ was a shall issue state... unless the applicant had a felony or prior criminal history a permit was granted unconditionally. The only difference now is that people don't have to pay for or carry around a peice of plastic and dole out $100+.

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