So about General Petraeus

[Lohman446]

If the former director of the CIA's affair is front page news does that make anyone else nervous about the status of the secrets of our nation?

[cockerpunk]

i feel a strong correlation between this scandal and the plot of burn after reading.

[Lohman446]

LOL. I know Burn after Reading had a plot but it was so convulated its hard to remember it. I read the synopsis and recalled watching the moving but that plot line needs a three dimensional map to make sense.

[cockerpunk]

LOL. I know Burn after Reading had a plot but it was so convulated its hard to remember it. I read the synopsis and recalled watching the moving but that plot line needs a three dimensional map to make sense.

pretty much the same kind of thing this has exploded into.

[wetwrks]

This all strikes me as smoke and mirrors to cover the murder of the ambassador by the terrorists.

They have known all about this for something like 6 months and just when he is supposed to testify before Congress about the attack this hits the news.

[cockerpunk]

This all strikes me as smoke and mirrors to cover the murder of the ambassador by the terrorists.

They have known all about this for something like 6 months and just when he is supposed to testify before Congress about the attack this hits the news.

he will still probably testify. and all statements so far from him have supported the presidents version of events. as will all statements from any military folks. and all statements from all reasonable military commentators.

there isn't anything to cover up. sorry guys, the rage machine invented Benghazi as an issue. a tragedy yes, a coverup - no. i also revel in the irony and hypocrisy of the GOP. after 9/11 the mere mention that there was something the USA could have done to prevent that attack was anti-american and blaming america for the actions of terrorists. but that was with a GOP president. now, with a democratic president, its a coverup of how he is selling america out to Muslims. ah, sweet double standards!

the timing was as soon as he was re-elected so that this didn't become an election issue, attacking the military. cantor and the GOP has also known about this investigation and its results for some time. obama was planning on booting him but didn't want to look like he was purging the military of possible political competition right before and election.

[Tunaman]

he will still probably testify. and all statements so far from him have supported the presidents version of events. as will all statements from any military folks. and all statements from all reasonable military commentators.

there isn't anything to cover up. sorry guys, the rage machine invented Benghazi as an issue. a tragedy yes, a coverup - no. i also revel in the irony and hypocrisy of the GOP. after 9/11 the mere mention that there was something the USA could have done to prevent that attack was anti-american and blaming america for the actions of terrorists. but that was with a GOP president. now, with a democratic president, its a coverup of how he is selling america out to Muslims. ah, sweet double standards!

the timing was as soon as he was re-elected so that this didn't become an election issue, attacking the military. cantor and the GOP has also known about this investigation and its results for some time. obama was planning on booting him but didn't want to look like he was purging the military of possible political competition right before and election.

The ambassador and the Ex Seals called for help 4 times and were denied. Could have have a planeload of marines from Italy there in an hour. I dont care what anyones tries to tell me about this. OUR GOVERNMENT HUNG THEM OUT TO DRY!!! The entire Adminstration is lying and full of bull sheep. Hang them all! The State Dept is responsible for the security of the Embassy. They(she...Hillary) failed and people died. Fire them all, or bend over and get ready for some more Hope and Change. Let me get some more Koolaid for you...

[cockerpunk]

The ambassador and the Ex Seals called for help 4 times and were denied. Could have have a planeload of marines from Italy there in an hour. I dont care what anyones tries to tell me about this. OUR GOVERNMENT HUNG THEM OUT TO DRY!!! The entire Adminstration is lying and full of bull sheep. Hang them all! The State Dept is responsible for the security of the Embassy. They(she...Hillary) failed and people died. Fire them all, or bend over and get ready for some more Hope and Change. Let me get some more Koolaid for you...

none of that is actually true (help would have taken 4+ hours by all accounts), and all would have been to late.

the proper call was made, and that was to use the men already on the ground, to push through, and save who they could. they pushed down from the safe-house, into the embassy and saved who they could. this order was made as soon as the walls were breached.

there is a reason the military, petraaus, and most military commentators are saying calm the **** down, because there isn't anything crazy happening here. it was a bad situation, but the best call under the circumstances was made. and thanks to the courage of those men, many lives were saved.

now, were mistakes made? of course, like any fast developing situation that you have a limited knowledge to make decisions on, mistakes get made. that can be said of every battle fraught by any armed service ever. like our frequent warnings about 9/11 before it happened, hindsight is always 20/20.

but to say there is a coverup, and obama "hung them out to dry" is ridiculous.

did bush "hang them out to dry" on and before 9/11? did bush "hang them out to dry" when he invaded iraq on false intelligence data? where was the rage and calling for the heads of our leadership then, a lot more people died in both. oh sorry, there is a democrat in the white house, thats why.

this selective rage is really annoying.

[wetwrks]

none of that is actually true (help would have taken 4+ hours by all accounts), and all would have been to late.

This report states they could have had a spec opps team there within 2 hours:

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/10/26/help-denied-during-benghazi-attack-multiple-times/

And according to this article the fightine went on for more than 4 hours which is enough time for aid to arrive:

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/10/26/help-denied-during-benghazi-attack-multiple-times/

Moreover the Ambassador had repedidly requested more forces well before the event and had reported a growing threat against the Americans there.

And finally...our wonderful leader has reported to the UN several times that this wasn't a terrorist attack well after it was proven to be a terrorist attack.

[cockerpunk]

This report states they could have had a spec opps team there within 2 hours:

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/10/26/help-denied-during-benghazi-attack-multiple-times/

And according to this article the fightine went on for more than 4 hours which is enough time for aid to arrive:

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/10/26/help-denied-during-benghazi-attack-multiple-times/

Moreover the Ambassador had repedidly requested more forces well before the event and had reported a growing threat against the Americans there.

1. that is still too late
2. its unconfirmed, the source is "fox news" bwahaha
3. it was essentially special forces team that did the extraction that did happen

not saying mistakes weren't made, if we had known when the fight started that they were not going to be able to contain it, of course forces were sent. thats what did happen. they didn't get there soon enough, and they were less then 10 miles away. the pipe dream of some special forces based in another country could beat the guys already on the ground to the scene is ridiculous.

and again, hindsight is always 20/20. where was the rage and the calling for heads when it was shown that bush was actually briefed on the idea that 9/11 was going to happen, and yet did nothing? where is the outrage and calling for heads when bush invaded another country and killed thousands of americans, all for a lie?

let keep our eye on the ball people.

[wetwrks]

let keep our eye on the ball people.

Lets keep our eye on the ball? You are the one who keeps trying to change the subject. This isn't about Bush. This isn't about the original 9/11. This is about the killing of a US Ambassador by terrorists. This is about Obama claiming it was just an accident when all the evidence proved otherwise. This is about requests for aid that were outright refused and thus American lives were just written off as collateral.

You make accusations against Bush... If what he did was wrong then you should also be screaming against these similar wrongs.

[BigEvil]

You make accusations against Bush... If what he did was wrong then you should also be screaming against these similar wrongs.

That is the typical lib playbook. It's all Bush's fault.

[wetwrks]

That is the typical lib playbook. It's all Bush's fault.

Yep, that and to try changing the subject instead of arguing the points.

[going_home]

So Let It Be Written, So Let It Be Done

The ambassador wasnt at the embassy, he was at a so called "safe house".

The man knew too much and they wanted him dead, they being the pretender in chief and the thugs he calls his administration.

Doesnt matter, no one will ever swing for this murder.

There will never be another republican in the white house again.

They got away with stealing the election, so it will be done from now on.

Except for the lieutenant colonel, they picked on the wrong guy this time:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

[Lohman446]

Ah politics. Where we throw blame and accusation in front of truth and answers.