A Long Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away

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Why is it so many so called "pro speedballers" look like they could pass as homeless crackheads ?

[Frizzle Fry]

Why is it so many so called "pro speedballers" look like they could pass as homeless crackheads ?

They also dress like they're 15 years old.

[BTAutoMag]

I disslike camo. Although im sucking it up for living legends. Ill be the obvious homelss crackhead in camo.

[Freedy500]

Apparently there is even a teenage counter-culture even in paintball. So a culture (paintball) formed inside of a larger culture (whatever you call ours) still produces a counter-culture. So if this keeps up then that means there will be a counter-counter-culture. This is like inception but with paintball cultures. I wonder how bad it can get. Although the way I see it is eventually they will learn how to appreciate the classics when they are older. Lets just carry the torch.

Probably confused you.....I will just leave this thread.

[cockerpunk]

Apparently there is even a teenage counter-culture even in paintball. So a culture (paintball) formed inside of a larger culture (whatever you call ours) still produces a counter-culture. So if this keeps up then that means there will be a counter-counter-culture. This is like inception but with paintball cultures. I wonder how bad it can get. Although the way I see it is eventually they will learn how to appreciate the classics when they are older. Lets just carry the torch.

Probably confused you.....I will just leave this thread.

agreed

and woodsball players always seem to get super super defensive about it. i can't figure out why. we were staging with tyger at living legends 2 or 3, must have been three, anyway, at one point he starting making snarky comments about the pro guys who come out and play these kind of events, i don't even remember who they were, but he is all getting pissy "eh we don't care about them ... bout time they came back to play real paintball ... why are we supposed to look up to them ... " and a bunch of other stuff. now, anyone who knows me or my internet ramblings on the topic of national speed/x ball events knows im not a huge fan, but wow tyger was annoying me so much about it i told him to shut up, quit complaining, and go play paintball.

who seriously gives a rats ass? just play paintball

they are like woodsball martyrs, like the ever so annoying pump martyrs.

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come at me bro

[Patron God of Pirates]

I love both games. The only time I ever have an issue is when the fields don't break up the groups. Nothing more annoying in speedball then trying to lead a group of new players against an experienced team that is just out there practicing. Nothing more annoying in woodsball then having a bunch of regulars who know the terrain (the single biggest advantage you can have in the woods) playing against newer and first time players.

It's bad for the game. But I digress. Please return this thread to its originally scheduled topic.

[cockerpunk]

I love both games.

got news for you ... ITS THE SAME GAME

[Patron God of Pirates]

Thanks for the news. I'm going to have to disagree with you though. In speedball I know where all of my opponents are for the majority of the very short game. In the woods I can go minutes at a time not knowing where the other guys or even my teammates are. Games can last absurdly long if there isn't a time limit. In the woods I'm judicious about making my presence known. In speedball I rely on being fast and keeping the right heads down at the right time by shooting, knowing the angles.

Yes, they are both paintball and many of the fundamentals are the same. But saying they are the same game is overstating the similarity IMO.

got news for you ... ITS THE SAME GAME

[Frizzle Fry]

Thanks for the news. I'm going to have to disagree with you though. In speedball I know where all of my opponents are for the majority of the very short game. In the woods I can go minutes at a time not knowing where the other guys or even my teammates are. Games can last absurdly long if there isn't a time limit. In the woods I'm judicious about making my presence known. In speedball I rely on being fast and keeping the right heads down at the right time by shooting, knowing the angles.

Yes, they are both paintball and many of the fundamentals are the same. But saying they are the same game is overstating the similarity IMO.

Agreed.

It's like comparing cricket to baseball. Just because you have some of the same tools does not mean you're playing the same game; a different field and different rules make it a different game.

[cockerpunk]

Thanks for the news. I'm going to have to disagree with you though. In speedball I know where all of my opponents are for the majority of the very short game. In the woods I can go minutes at a time not knowing where the other guys or even my teammates are. Games can last absurdly long if there isn't a time limit. In the woods I'm judicious about making my presence known. In speedball I rely on being fast and keeping the right heads down at the right time by shooting, knowing the angles.

Yes, they are both paintball and many of the fundamentals are the same. But saying they are the same game is overstating the similarity IMO.

they are the same, and the faster paintball figures this out, the better it will be for all of us.

[blackdeath1k]

It is all paintball. But it is not the same game. Totally different style of play and normally tactics. I will play both. But! They are not the same. Players should not bash either though. As they are both a legitimate style of paintball.

In a big woods ball game 300 rounds would be a lot of paint shot to me. And my team better win and the game probably took 30 minutes or longer with me in all the way through unless I took a strategic kill shot. In speedball 300 rounds could be just a few minutes of game play. In the past when I was 20 speedball was all I would play. Unless a church group showed up. Then it was normally the 6-10 regular players against the 50+ group in the woods. And we dialed our fire back. But played with a combined strategy. So although it is all paintball. They are 2 totally different styles of play.

[The Ritual]

Fundamentals stay the same. Opposing teams shoot at each other with paintballs. People change things up so it doesn't get boring or routine, but we still end up shooting each other in the end.

Woodsball got boring, and people in the industry wanted growth. It went from plenty of time to shoot a guy hiding behind a tree to less time shooting a guy hiding behind a balloon or tire. Either way, regardless of the color of my attire, Im still here to shoot a paintball or two at the other fellow.

[cockerpunk]

Fundamentals stay the same. Opposing teams shoot at each other with paintballs. People change things up so it doesn't get boring or routine, but we still end up shooting each other in the end.

Woodsball got boring, and people in the industry wanted growth. It went from plenty of time to shoot a guy hiding behind a tree to less time shooting a guy hiding behind a balloon or tire. Either way, regardless of the color of my attire, Im still here to shoot a paintball or two at the other fellow.

it really is that simple. you get the angles, you got the shots, you win.

[Patron God of Pirates]

it really is that simple. you get the angles, you got the shots, you win.

Agreed. But the scenario building up to that can be massively different between the two formats. Last time I played woodsball it was 15 v 15 on big "field" From the start I bolted up the left tapeline. I was applying a speedball tactic to woodsball. The results were completely different. I speedball I would have maybe made it to the 50 if I got good support and a little luck. In the woods we were out of visual range so none of the other team even knew what I was doing let alone shot at me. I only encountered one of them on my way to the back tapeline. Quick exchange of fire and I was completely behind them. I got two surrenders and took out two more before being shot out by one of my teammates.

That scenario is impossible in speedball. I understand where you guys are coming from. I think you are correct in the micro and wrong in the macro. Fry's example of Cricket/Baseball is perfect IMO.

[cockerpunk]

That scenario is impossible in speedball.

false

you do the exact same thing in speedball. get the angles, get the kills, win the game.