AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
I'm actually from Kennesaw GA. I can attest to the super low crime rate. The law is also not actively enforced, but knowing that someone 'should' have one ,has kept crime rather low. Also, our neighboring town of Acworth has a law on the books that a homeowner must own a rake. Incidentally, its pretty much a haven for meth...so there you have it. If your neighbor has a rake, they are possibly meth heads.
I'm actually from Kennesaw GA. I can attest to the super low crime rate. The law is also not actively enforced, but knowing that someone 'should' have one ,has kept crime rather low. Also, our neighboring town of Acworth has a law on the books that a homeowner must own a rake. Incidentally, its pretty much a haven for meth...so there you have it. If your neighbor has a rake, they are possibly meth heads.
what they don't tell is that Switzerland has possibly the craziest and most strict gun laws, despite huge gun ownership. gun ownership is by permit. conceal and carry is done on a specific needs basis (ie, you must pose evidence of a specific threat to justify it.) ammunition must be kept track of and counted by authorities to insure it was not illegally fired. ammunition is extremely hard and expensive to acquire, and as i said, must be kept track of down to the single bullet.
you should read up on it, contrary to the wet dream of the 2nd amendment fundamentalist, Switzerland is a perfect example of good gun control.
"because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"
Yea, I feel like banging my head against the desk every time I hear the switzerland arguement.
I almost feel as if they ban open carry in every state and just allow concealed cary with a permit we'd be better off. Open carry just seems to cause issues between civillans and cops 90% of the time, if someone walks around with a gun strapped to their back it's only a matter of time before the cops are called. I'm 100% for having guns, I have 6 or 7 myself, just think open carry causes more problems than it fixes......and the "because I can" is getting old.
what they don't tell is that Switzerland has possibly the craziest and most strict gun laws, despite huge gun ownership. gun ownership is by permit. conceal and carry is done on a specific needs basis (ie, you must pose evidence of a specific threat to justify it.) ammunition must be kept track of and counted by authorities to insure it was not illegally fired. ammunition is extremely hard and expensive to acquire, and as i said, must be kept track of down to the single bullet.
you should read up on it, contrary to the wet dream of the 2nd amendment fundamentalist, Switzerland is a perfect example of good gun control.
I think you will find or already know that people do not want to consider things that are contrary to what they believe.
what they don't tell is that Switzerland has possibly the craziest and most strict gun laws, despite huge gun ownership. gun ownership is by permit. conceal and carry is done on a specific needs basis (ie, you must pose evidence of a specific threat to justify it.) ammunition must be kept track of and counted by authorities to insure it was not illegally fired. ammunition is extremely hard and expensive to acquire, and as i said, must be kept track of down to the single bullet.
you should read up on it, contrary to the wet dream of the 2nd amendment fundamentalist, Switzerland is a perfect example of good gun control.
Yes...but switzerland is the exception to the rule. NOT the norm.
Also, you can't just look at Switzerland's gun control laws and do a "cut and paste" job and expect it to work for the U.S. Take one look at the difference in location, land mass and total population and you'll realize that there would be no feasible way our government would be able to actually enforce the same kind of gun control laws here. And without total enforcement, it doesn't work.
The Swiss model is what mankind might be able to achieve in limited instances of controlled population, with a greatly reduced poverty rate.
Don't give me an apple and then tell me to peel it with my fingers like an orange.
Yes...but switzerland is the exception to the rule. NOT the norm.
Originally posted by Justus
Also, you can't just look at Switzerland's gun control laws and do a "cut and paste" job and expect it to work for the U.S. Take one look at the difference in location, land mass and total population and you'll realize that there would be no feasible way our government would be able to actually enforce the same kind of gun control laws here. And without total enforcement, it doesn't work.
The Swiss model is what mankind might be able to achieve in limited instances of controlled population, with a greatly reduced poverty rate.
Don't give me an apple and then tell me to peel it with my fingers like an orange.
oh i agree completely.
but that is NOT what the "info" graphic implies. it implies merely that Switzerland has low gun violence because it has high ownership, and that is most definitely not the case.
the truth, as always, is much more subtle and nuanced.
"because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"
I have an great uncle that is Swiss. Just about every male Swiss citizen does military service, and is required, by law, to keep his weapon at home until a certain age, and has to stay proficient with it and be tested every year. The ammunition is kept in containers with anti tamper lids, so every time they go in for their test and target practice, its checked.
This being said, my uncle did in fact work in an office where a guy went nuts and murdered a dozen people or so, and was in the building at the time. He retired after it, and the perp turned out to be schizophrenic. Again, unchecked mental illness the cause of the massacre, not the existence of firearms.
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